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    GS Valve Shims need some advice ..

    Hi Guys restoring my GS to it former glory and need a question answered !

    if you are checking your spec on valves and the lowest spec rate is fine
    but it goes over the recommended spec rate do you still need to change them.

    Manual says 0.03 - 0.08

    Must of my readings go up to0.03 - 0.15 ( is this okay as it is not going to burn a valve .

    Any advice on this be great cheers

    #2
    Don't quite understand your question but if it's near .03mm I would change it out for the next thinner one. A lot of us use .10mm as the upper limit.
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      #3
      Hi Kinetica01

      Welcome to this forum and glad you found this treasure trove of GS information! We like to see pictures of whatever bike you have!

      Please excuse my asking firstly that you must ensure you are using the correct feeler gauges corresponding to the spec units (mm or thousands of an inch). The reason I say this is because valve clearances usually tend to get smaller, not larger! So a clearance of 0.15 mm is not often seen!

      There is no problem in having clearance larger than spec, other than excessive noise. Since the shim thicknesses change by .05 mm to the next size, you could go one shim size thicker on your 0.15 valve and still end up with 0.10 which is only just over the upper spec (but actually used by many here). The valve train noise will be a lot less than at 0.15.

      Are you following the factory procedure for checking the clearances (there are specific positions to turn the cams to before taking measurements)? Some other service manuals do not describe this procedure well enough, which can lead to inaccurate readings.

      Please remember to NEVER turn the engine if a shim has been removed. There is a lot of reading matter on this forum relating to valve adjustments.
      1981 GS850G "Blue Magic" (Bike Of The Month April 2009)

      1981 GS1000G "Leo" (Bike Of The Month August 2023)

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        #4
        Originally posted by 2BRacing View Post
        Hi Kinetica01


        Are you following the factory procedure for checking the clearances (there are specific positions to turn the cams to before taking measurements)? Some other service manuals do not describe this procedure well enough, which can lead to inaccurate readings.
        This is a good point- it's possible to get a false high reading if adjacent cam lobe is pushing up on camshaft.
        1981 gs650L

        "We are all born ignorant, but you have to work hard to stay stupid" Ben Franklin

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          #5
          Guys thanks so much Im so glad i have found some great info already .

          1) I am using the mm feeler gauges which i have had for awhile , I was also shocked with the reading of 0.15 i think i will spec it to 0.10 like you guys said.

          2) I do have one of the shims which is smaller which i will need to change as well ,but i will double check this all again using the factory procedure and see what results i get I have had trouble tracking down manual for GS 550m

          Thanks again guys will let you know how i go, and i will learn how to post pics ..

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            #6
            Haven't posted in the GS owners section yet?Here's the link to BassCliff's sight. http://members.dslextreme.com/users/bikecliff/ and in there you will find http://www.mtsac.edu/~cliff/storage/..._77-82_all.pdf and http://members.dslextreme.com/users/...t_pictures.pdf
            I wish all sights had a BassCliff.

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              #7
              I wish all sights had a BassCliff.[/QUOTE]

              ^this

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                #8
                Actually, it would be better if all SITES had a BassCliff.

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                mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                Family Portrait
                Siblings and Spouses
                Mom's first ride
                Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                  #9
                  All caps, Steve? Really?
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                  Life is too short to ride an L.

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                    #10
                    Greetings and Salutations!!!

                    Hi Mr. kinetica01,

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                    Last edited by Guest; 06-06-2013, 02:15 PM.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Steve View Post
                      Actually, it would be better if all SITES had a BassCliff.

                      .
                      Opps
                      Stupid 10 character thing

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by SVSooke View Post
                        Opps
                        Oops.

                        .
                        sigpic
                        mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                        hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                        #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                        #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                        Family Portrait
                        Siblings and Spouses
                        Mom's first ride
                        Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                        (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by tkent02 View Post
                          All caps, Steve? Really?
                          You would have preferred italics?

                          .
                          sigpic
                          mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                          hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                          #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                          #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                          Family Portrait
                          Siblings and Spouses
                          Mom's first ride
                          Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                          (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                            #14
                            Yes .
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                            Life is too short to ride an L.

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