Loss of power and fuel economy

[cowboyup3371]

Remove the tip by unscrewing it; you'll want a pair of pliers to turn it as its on fairly tight.

[tkent02]

H
-Air box... the clymer manual lists that all gs850-1100s, with the exception of the 1000GL models, should have an air filter element. My air box is empty. There is a flat duct for sucking in air that is connected to the box, then the box connects directly to the carbs, no air filter. Is it missing or is this a mistake in the Clymer manual. (I have a '80 1100L)

What is my next step?

Yeah there should be a filter in there... Get one. That has to be at least part of your problem.

[grantcrose]

Remove the tip by unscrewing it; you'll want a pair of pliers to turn it as its on fairly tight.

Unless I'm mistaken there are three types: solid, stud and loose. I believe that mine are of the solid type and cannot be removed. When I ordered them though, it only listed that they were NGK B8ES, no terminal information.

[grantcrose]

Yeah there should be a filter in there... Get one. That has to be at least part of your problem.

Any ideas on where I could order one? All I'm seeing online are aftermarket pods and such.

[lemonshindig]

Any ideas on where I could order one? All I'm seeing online are aftermarket pods and such.

Try a suzuki dealer, such as

boulevardsuzuki.com

or maybe z1:

z1enterprises.com

[craftsman]

Unless I'm mistaken there are three types: solid, stud and loose. I believe that mine are of the solid type and cannot be removed. When I ordered them though, it only listed that they were NGK B8ES, no terminal information.

I thought I had the wrong kind of plugs too because the end the cable attaches to still had the caps on. It took some serious torquing with vice grips, but they did come off and revealed the threaded end I was expecting to see.

[BassCliff]

Hi,

Unless I'm mistaken there are three types: solid, stud and loose. I believe that mine are of the solid type and cannot be removed. When I ordered them though, it only listed that they were NGK B8ES, no terminal information.

Those tips will screw off. For more helpful tips, like how to properly clean your carbs, see the information below. It's your "mega-welcome".

If you are here you probably have a 30 year old motorcycle that needs about 20 years worth of maintenance. In the links below you'll find maintenance lists, documentation, wiring diagrams, "how to" guides, vendor links, tips, tricks, and a whole lot of GS goodness. This is your "mega-welcome". Let's get started.

Let me dump a TON of information on you and share some GS lovin'.

I just stopped by to welcome you to the forum in my own, special way.

If there's anything you'd like to know about the Suzuki GS model bikes, and most others actually, you've come to the right place. There's a lot of knowledge and experience here in the community. Come on in and let me say "HOoooowwwDY!"....

Here is your very own magical, mystical, mythical, mind-expanding "mega-welcome". Please take notice of the "Top 10 Common Issues", "Top 15 Tips For GS Happiness", the Carb Cleanup Series, and the Stator Papers. All of these tasks must be addressed in order to have a safe, reliable machine. This is what NOT to do: Top 10 Newbie Mistakes. Now let me roll out the welcome mat for you...



Please Click Here For Your Mega-Welcome, chock full of tips, suggestions, links to vendors, and other information. Then feel free to visit my little BikeCliff website where I've been collecting the wisdom of this generous community. Don't forget, we like pictures! Not you, your bike!

More links to helpful threads in the forum:
Help! Your Bike Won't Start
DON'T DO THESE THINGS
Help! Your Bike Won't Run Well
Oh God! Pods!


Thanks for joining us. Keep us informed.

Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

[grantcrose]

Hi,



Those tips will screw off. For more helpful tips, like how to properly clean your carbs, see the information below. It's your "mega-welcome".

If you are here you probably have a 30 year old motorcycle that needs about 20 years worth of maintenance. In the links below you'll find maintenance lists, documentation, wiring diagrams, "how to" guides, vendor links, tips, tricks, and a whole lot of GS goodness. This is your "mega-welcome". Let's get started.

Let me dump a TON of information on you and share some GS lovin'.

I just stopped by to welcome you to the forum in my own, special way.

If there's anything you'd like to know about the Suzuki GS model bikes, and most others actually, you've come to the right place. There's a lot of knowledge and experience here in the community. Come on in and let me say "HOoooowwwDY!"....

Here is your very own magical, mystical, mythical, mind-expanding "mega-welcome". Please take notice of the "Top 10 Common Issues", "Top 15 Tips For GS Happiness", the Carb Cleanup Series, and the Stator Papers. All of these tasks must be addressed in order to have a safe, reliable machine. This is what NOT to do: Top 10 Newbie Mistakes. Now let me roll out the welcome mat for you...



Please Click Here For Your Mega-Welcome, chock full of tips, suggestions, links to vendors, and other information. Then feel free to visit my little BikeCliff website where I've been collecting the wisdom of this generous community. Don't forget, we like pictures! Not you, your bike!

More links to helpful threads in the forum:
Help! Your Bike Won't Start
DON'T DO THESE THINGS
Help! Your Bike Won't Run Well
Oh God! Pods!


Thanks for joining us. Keep us informed.

Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

Thank you. While I'd love to pretend that I didn't make any of these newbie mistakes, that wont help me much at this point. I've got a couple long weekends (and paychecks haha) coming up that will be spent carefully starting again from the basics. At least I have the bare necessities done though, new oil + filter, fresh brake pads, replaced stator/rectifier, and thoroughly cleaned carbs. I can start from here and hopefully learn a lot.

[lemonshindig]

I don't really see the point in the SeaFoam. Yes, the crap works well.

But a good overnight soak, followed by spraying out the passages, replacing the rubber hoses, and flushing the gas tank, works better. At that point, the seafoam is a waste of money.

Good luck!

-Matt