How many clutch plates for a 1980 GS1000G?

[JTGS850GL]

The reason I'm asking is that the OEM parts diagram says 9 for a 1980 model but mine has 8 each of the driven and drive plates? The 78 and 79 says 8 for each. Could mine have a 79 clutch or was there a transition period where 1980 models had the 79 clutches? No idea what the previous POs have done but I do seem to have a clutch that wont release properly.

[Nessism]

The G clutch is totally different from the chain drive clutch. G's have smaller plates, but more of them.

[JTGS850GL]

My 1980 1000G only has 8 of each discs right now. I'll open her up again to make sure, but that's what I counted the last time I opened up the clutch housing. Do the chain drive engine clutch discs fit into the G model clutch housing? If not, then I may be missing a pair of discs or they're completely the wrong set.

Edit: I just checked and the parts fiche says 9 plates for both the 1000E and the 1000G from 1980 on. Since there was no 1979 1000G I can't compare that to the 1980. The strange thing is that the picture shows only 8 plates.

Like I've been saying... Right now you can't pull the clutch lever and have it free roll while in gear. If I try to start the engine while in gear, and with the clutch lever pulled it in, it will lurch forward. I've taken the discs out and repacked the clutch with no help. The discs were not fused together at all. Trying to trace this down before I try to run her. My 1982 850G does not do this.

[Nessism]

The G clutch uses 9 friction plates, the E has 8, but they are larger. What fishe are you checking? http://www.gssuzuki.com/fiche_sectio...1980&fveh=2151

[JTGS850GL]

Whoops, Sorry, it looks like I was looking at the GS1100E instead of the 1000E. It's also a little confusing because the picture in this fishe:

http://www.suzukipartshouse.com/oemparts/a/suz/50d40321f8700230d8b4e9e4/clutch

only shows 8 plates but the "qty" required says 9.

So, if I have only 8 plates (to be verified again today) then something is definitely wrong with my clutch setup.

How then do I know what is in there? Could the PO have just left off two plates or is there an aftermarket clutch setup that only had 8 plates? Any suggestions on what to do now? From the pictures in the fishe it does look like I have the correct clutch hubs since the primary driven hub is solid all the way around unlike the fingered driven hub on the 1000E.

[Flyboy]

If you can wait, I am going in to re-torque my clutch hub nut this weekend on my '81 1000G, I will count the plates for you and let you know, had them out last weekend but never counted them.
Also, make sure your clutch cable is set up correctly, the little arm on the shaft coming out the top of the clutch cover, that actuates the clutch, must be at right angles to the casing, the cable must pull dead straight, you cannot take up slack or increase movement by moving the arm on the splines, I have seen this tried before, it does not work.

Make sure you are getting full pull at the clutch down the bottom, the biggest culprit for loosing pull on the clutch is wear of the clutch lever at the pivot bolt, the hole wears oval and you need to pull half way to take up the slack before it starts to move the cable.
Even if it feels like there is tension on the cable and it is pulling from the start, it is not, the lever slides sideways in the oval groove before pulling the cable.
Check that there is no play at all between the clutch lever and pivot bolt, trust me on this one, I have replaced many clutch levers on my bike because of wear, the difference is day and night.

[chef1366]

My E has 9 and 9 including the one behind the piano wire.

[Nessism]

My E has 9 and 9 including the one behind the piano wire.

Too bad this discussion doesn't include the 1100E.

So actually, the 1100E and 1000G share the same clutch. Fooled ya!!

[JTGS850GL]

OK, I give. I'm an idiot and must be blind. I just pulled the clutch apart again and found that I do indeed have 9 plates in there. The ninth fiber plate was just about glued to the inside steel plate and it didn't come out with the rest of the stack. I should have looked closer and thought about it. I was finally able to unstick the last plate which was VERY stuck to the rear plate. I cleaned every plate and then re-oiled each plate. After reassembly I verified through the oil fill tube that I had good movement of the pressure plate. Maybe a little more then 1/8" of movement with all the slack taken up in the clutch cable. I was then able to pull the clutch and get movement of the rear wheel (with some resistance) while in 1st gear. Before this I could not hold the bike in place when in gear, clutch pulled and cranking it over with the starter. In fact I could stall the starter if I tried hard enough using the rear brake. I guess the third time is the charm.

Thanks for those that gave me assistance. Now onto the next phase of my project.