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    Need clutch help with 82 1100G

    Some background first: I picked up this 1100G project from someone else. Basically, an 82 1100G with 39K miles, complete and an 82 1100GL rolling chassis with an engine with only 6,900 miles. The idea was to just transfer the lower mileage engine from the L into the complete G bike. Why? .. I was told the PO wanted a lower mileage engine in his G.

    The project looked to be going in the right direction when I got it. The engine had fresh oil that you could see through when looking through the oil level indicator. All the gear oil was as clear as could be. The carbs had been cleaned and rebuilt... even the float heights were correct when I measured them. It looked as if everything was being done right when I got this project.

    I have since swapped the engines, replaced the rear wheel spline as the original was shot. Adjusted the valves as they were off. I figured at 6,900 miles it would be due a check since the manual says to check at 7,500 miles. They were all tight so I'm guessing they were never done since this bike was bought new.

    My problem is this. When I finally got all the electrics fixed and could read the instrument gear indicator, the bike would start at neutral, go up to second, third and fourth gear but not go into fifth gear. Going back down, I would go from fourth to third to second to neutral but not be able to go into first. I began trying to adjust the clutch cable but don't seem to be able to get it right. Now, after all my attempts, it just stays in neutral and won't shift up or down. I know it was going through several of the gears in the beginning but not now. So I'm thinking my issue is in the clutch cable adjustments. I also know that a bike sitting for a while can leave the clutch plates a little sticky and running it might loosen them up but I don't see where adjusting the clutch cable would make things worse. I'm at a loss.

    Below are a few pics showing the clutch cable and how it sits before and after I pull in the clutch lever. The first pic shows where the clutch cable arm sits when I pull in the clutch lever. The second pic shows how the clutch cable arm as it rests without pulling the clutch lever. Is this how far it should travel? Any ideas?


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    1974 GT750 ...done, running and sold
    1974 GT550 .... under construction (done and sold)
    1978 GS550........all stock, running (going to do 550/650 build with it)
    1978 GS1000...another project (Given to son #2)
    1982 GS750EZ ...daily driver(given to son#1)
    1982 GS1100G...completed and traded to son #2 for the 750 back
    1982 GS750EZ...daily driver (got it back in trade with son #2)
    1983 GR650 Tempter.... engine rebuild completed (and sold)

    #2
    you are able to get a bike into gears even if you don't use the clutch...

    are you testing at a stand still ? or riding the bike and moving ?

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      #3
      The bike is on the center stand. I haven't fired her up just yet.
      sigpic

      1974 GT750 ...done, running and sold
      1974 GT550 .... under construction (done and sold)
      1978 GS550........all stock, running (going to do 550/650 build with it)
      1978 GS1000...another project (Given to son #2)
      1982 GS750EZ ...daily driver(given to son#1)
      1982 GS1100G...completed and traded to son #2 for the 750 back
      1982 GS750EZ...daily driver (got it back in trade with son #2)
      1983 GR650 Tempter.... engine rebuild completed (and sold)

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        #4
        Originally posted by Super View Post
        The bike is on the center stand. I haven't fired her up just yet.
        That's your problem, the wheel needs to be turning to get into/out of gears.

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          #5
          Ok, I'll give that a shot. I thought you could go through the gears even if a bike is just sitting on it's center stand.
          sigpic

          1974 GT750 ...done, running and sold
          1974 GT550 .... under construction (done and sold)
          1978 GS550........all stock, running (going to do 550/650 build with it)
          1978 GS1000...another project (Given to son #2)
          1982 GS750EZ ...daily driver(given to son#1)
          1982 GS1100G...completed and traded to son #2 for the 750 back
          1982 GS750EZ...daily driver (got it back in trade with son #2)
          1983 GR650 Tempter.... engine rebuild completed (and sold)

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            #6
            Originally posted by Super View Post
            I thought you could go through the gears even if a bike is just sitting on it's center stand.
            Nope, you need to have rotation for it to reliably change from gear to gear. It may work up and down to some extent but will not do so reliably until the engine is turning over. To get her out of neutral you will either have to turn the rear wheel or the engine from where it is now.
            http://img633.imageshack.us/img633/811/douMvs.jpg
            1980 GS1000GT (Daily rider with a 1983 1100G engine)
            1998 Honda ST1100 (Daily long distance rider)
            1982 GS850GLZ (Daily rider when the weather is crap)

            Darn, with so many daily riders it's hard to decide which one to jump on next.;)

            JTGS850GL aka Julius

            GS Resource Greetings

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              #7
              Ok, then. I guess I'll wait till I fire her up to see how she goes. You learn something new every day. My bad.
              sigpic

              1974 GT750 ...done, running and sold
              1974 GT550 .... under construction (done and sold)
              1978 GS550........all stock, running (going to do 550/650 build with it)
              1978 GS1000...another project (Given to son #2)
              1982 GS750EZ ...daily driver(given to son#1)
              1982 GS1100G...completed and traded to son #2 for the 750 back
              1982 GS750EZ...daily driver (got it back in trade with son #2)
              1983 GR650 Tempter.... engine rebuild completed (and sold)

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                #8
                While it's on the center stand, rotate/rock the rear tire with one hand & manipulate the shift lever with the other... should go up & down through the gears no problem...
                '85 GS550L - SOLD
                '85 GS550E - SOLD
                '82 GS650GL - SOLD
                '81 GS750L - SOLD
                '82 GS850GL - trusty steed
                '80 GS1100L - son's project bike
                '82 GS1100G - SOLD
                '81 GS1100E - Big Red (daily rider)

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                  #9
                  Ok, that was going to be my next move. But I'll probably wait till I have someone else around just to make it a little easier. Thanks for all the help everybody.

                  I feel like an idiot... I always thought you could go through the gears with a bike not running and on it's center stand. But on second thought.... I don't think I've ever tried it before either so.... yep, I'm an idiot.
                  sigpic

                  1974 GT750 ...done, running and sold
                  1974 GT550 .... under construction (done and sold)
                  1978 GS550........all stock, running (going to do 550/650 build with it)
                  1978 GS1000...another project (Given to son #2)
                  1982 GS750EZ ...daily driver(given to son#1)
                  1982 GS1100G...completed and traded to son #2 for the 750 back
                  1982 GS750EZ...daily driver (got it back in trade with son #2)
                  1983 GR650 Tempter.... engine rebuild completed (and sold)

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