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GS850G got a little clutch slip
going on, it's not all the time, usually in top gear when giving it some, I'm going to try replace the springs first question is do I replace with OEM items or EBC who always tend to advertise there clutch sets etc as being 10% more heavy duty/stiffer!!!! I don't want to have to use both hands to pull the clutch in the bike had done very little milage in 10yrs and the clutch did slip more when I first got it, possibly due to the plates drying out a little, your thoughts please.Tags: None
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10% stiffer means a harder clutch pull, and every part in the system wears out sooner. Cable, lever, perch, the clutch basket, all of it. Heavier clutches are not needed unless you are running a seriously higher performance engine, with good OEM springs and if necessary new OEM plates it will not slip at all, ever.
The springs have been compressed for thirty some years, they are shorter now and can't provide the pressure they once did. They plates may have no wear at all, or may be completely shot, it depends on how badly the previous owners abused the clutch.
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Take her apart and inspect the clutch plates. If everything checks out, then I'd just replace the springs with OEM.http://img633.imageshack.us/img633/811/douMvs.jpg
1980 GS1000GT (Daily rider with a 1983 1100G engine)
1998 Honda ST1100 (Daily long distance rider)
1982 GS850GLZ (Daily rider when the weather is crap)
Darn, with so many daily riders it's hard to decide which one to jump on next.;)
JTGS850GL aka Julius
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Chris G
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Chris G
Update: everyone one of the clutch springs in under the free length limit of 38.8mm, measured all the drive plates and these are all well within spec, I also found one of the metal driven plates to be distorted all others appear ok.
I also noticed in the clutch cover near the oil filler, is what I would describe as a jet, when I align the cover to the bike the jet mates with a hollow section of the engine case and appears to head down sump area maybe, question is is this just a breather? I did note that it was partially block, I could blow air through it, I've cleaned it out anyhow.
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Chris G
Originally posted by wymple View PostYour clutch can slip if you inadvertently use a wrong oil.
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Get new springs and replace the warped steel plate. Your clutch will be fine. Oil type is not your problem.http://img633.imageshack.us/img633/811/douMvs.jpg
1980 GS1000GT (Daily rider with a 1983 1100G engine)
1998 Honda ST1100 (Daily long distance rider)
1982 GS850GLZ (Daily rider when the weather is crap)
Darn, with so many daily riders it's hard to decide which one to jump on next.;)
JTGS850GL aka Julius
GS Resource Greetings
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Chris G
All back together, lever feels much better now with new spring, and replaced the dodgy driven plate, give it a test over the week end.
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Chris G - I use that Halfords £29.99 for 5 litres stuff. Works well for me. Might just change the oil a little more frequently that with a more expensive brand.
I recently changed my clutch springs too (they are expensive OEM are they not!) and it cleared up the little slip as you described, in top gear. It's when it's in top and meeting the most resistance that it tends to slip.
Yes I also spotted the brass jet in the side of the clutch housing and just assumed that it was there to direct oil at the clutch. Does that make sense?
GreetingsRichard
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I just replaced the springs on mine and it still slips. Plates measured almost new. I've either got to pony up for new plates or try the deglazing method I read on here somewhere.
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Chris G
Originally posted by londonboards View PostChris G - I use that Halfords £29.99 for 5 litres stuff. Works well for me. Might just change the oil a little more frequently that with a more expensive brand.
I recently changed my clutch springs too (they are expensive OEM are they not!) and it cleared up the little slip as you described, in top gear. It's when it's in top and meeting the most resistance that it tends to slip.
Yes I also spotted the brass jet in the side of the clutch housing and just assumed that it was there to direct oil at the clutch. Does that make sense?
Greetings
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Originally posted by londonboards View PostI recently changed my clutch springs too (they are expensive OEM are they not!) and it cleared up the little slip as you described, in top gear. It's when it's in top and meeting the most resistance that it tends to slip.
They are usually very inexpensive.
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Chris G
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Originally posted by wymple View PostYour clutch can slip if you inadvertently use a wrong oil.sigpicMrBill Been a GSR member on and off since April 2002
1980 GS 750E Bought new in Feb of 1980
2015 CAN AM RTS
Stuff I've done to my bike:dancing: 1100E front end with new Sonic springs, 1100E swing arm conversion with new Progressive shocks installed, 530 sprockets/chain conversion, new SS brake lines, new brake pads. New SS fasteners through out. Rebuilt carbs, new EBC clutch springs and horn installed. New paint. Motor runs strong.
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