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    78GS750 kickstart question

    I've totally dis-assembled the engine and during re-assembly I noticed that the kick starter pawl (#26231-30001) doesn't line up with the kick starter guide (#26232-45000). the guide is not 90 degrees so when the pawl contacts the guide, the pawl becomes un-meshed with the kick starter drive gear (#26240-45000). my question is this, is the guide supposed to be at 90 degrees so that when the pawl hits it, it stays meshed with the drive gear or is it supposed to become un-meshed. Any pics or advice would be greatly appreciated.

    #2
    This is why I take pics of a new bike I havent worked on before. Pics are good way to refresh the memory while reassembly.
    MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
    1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

    NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


    I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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      #3
      I did take pics. I also found the gear shift rod was bent. I know that has to be straight, but I don't know if the kick start guide is supposed to be straight. Pics help you re-assembly the components exactly the way they came apart but they don't always show you what it was supposed to look like when it was new. I've done a lot of searching for another pic online to compare with my pics but I haven't found any that were definitive. That's why I hoped someone here might have a pic or 2.

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        #4
        Its been at least 2 0r 3 years since ive been in a 77 or 78 clutch side to remember exactly how the kicker is seated. Shifter rod can just be straightened though I would think.

        Seems ..if i remember correctly..there is a detent (or its a molded in thing the spring end grabs against ) the kicker spring grabs into and you just line up the assembly with the kicker arm in the top position and insert it..yes? Then if its right the gear slides in to lock on the clutch baskets gear and releases as the arm is returned to the top position. Post up some pics.
        MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
        1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

        NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


        I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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          #5
          I have a 750 engine opened up now,
          I'll look at it later.
          http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...tatesMap-1.jpg

          Life is too short to ride an L.

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            #6
            I do remember that you have to stick the assembly in and add a little preload to the return spring or it wont recoil back to the top.
            MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
            1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

            NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


            I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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              #7
              These are pics of what I think the alignment should be.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Bones View Post
                These are pics of what I think the alignment should be.
                https://plus.google.com/photos/11677...26636699786689
                I tried to look at your picture, but it wanted me to upgrade to a Picassa account and/or Google +.

                Sorry, ain't gonna happen.

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                  #9
                  Says "You do not have permission to view this album" when I clicked on the link...sorry.
                  MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                  1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                  NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                  I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                    #10
                    i'll try another way.

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                            #14
                            On the one I just took apart, the bent steel piece is bent at a 45 degree angle, not 90. The pawl comes down and contacts at the base of it, just next to the bend.

                            If you need a pic, it will take me some time.
                            http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...tatesMap-1.jpg

                            Life is too short to ride an L.

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                              #15
                              Thanks tkent02, i know what you are talking about. I have changed mine to a 45* angle.

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