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    #16
    Originally posted by jimb12 View Post
    I think you're forgetting that his bike is 32 years old. Don't assume that it had the same hp stock in 2014 as it did when it came out of the crate.
    Why not, if its not burning oil, kept in tune etc etc and runs like a stripped a$$ ape...I would bet'cha it would be about the same hp. In some cases even a bit more since the rings are seated in good.
    sigpicMrBill Been a GSR member on and off since April 2002
    1980 GS 750E Bought new in Feb of 1980
    2015 CAN AM RTS


    Stuff I've done to my bike:dancing: 1100E front end with new Sonic springs, 1100E swing arm conversion with new Progressive shocks installed, 530 sprockets/chain conversion, new SS brake lines, new brake pads. New SS fasteners through out. Rebuilt carbs, new EBC clutch springs and horn installed. New paint. Motor runs strong.

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      #17
      Originally posted by mrbill5491 View Post
      Why not, if its not burning oil, kept in tune etc etc and runs like a stripped a$$ ape...I would bet'cha it would be about the same hp. In some cases even a bit more since the rings are seated in good.
      Burns no oil, starts instantly with choke, nary a cough nor sputter from idle to redline. Plus she's lighter with no centerstand, V&H exhaust and missing seat strap.

      Getting a little frightening in first and second near redline as I'm no wheelie expert.
      1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red

      2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Rob S. View Post
        Burns no oil, starts instantly with choke, nary a cough nor sputter from idle to redline. Plus she's lighter with no centerstand, V&H exhaust and missing seat strap.

        Getting a little frightening in first and second near redline as I'm no wheelie expert.
        Your Dyno results, clearly show that there are little adverse affects of age, presumably because you have kept up with basic maintenance.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Rob S. View Post
          Burns no oil, starts instantly with choke, nary a cough nor sputter from idle to redline. Plus she's lighter with no centerstand, V&H exhaust and missing seat strap.

          Getting a little frightening in first and second near redline as I'm no wheelie expert.
          Ride a modern 1000 sportbike for a week and that should kill any thought that your 11000E is wheelie prone.

          (Not to say that the 1100 doesn't want to lift it's front wheel or that is isn't very fun motorcycle to ride.)

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            #20
            Originally posted by AJ View Post
            Ride a modern 1000 sportbike for a week
            Couldnt think of anything worse, if its got a fairing and built after 1984 its crap lol. FYI GS1000s has a wind deflector

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              #21
              Originally posted by AJ View Post
              Ride a modern 1000 sportbike for a week and that should kill any thought that your 11000E is wheelie prone.
              Yeah, I know (I've read every issue of Cycle World cover to cover for over 20 years).

              I just don't like radiators or fairings on bikes. Or luggage racks. Or saddle bags. Or crash bars. Or...

              You get the idea. I want to see my engine (and it better have cooling fins!)
              1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red

              2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.

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                #22
                Originally posted by Rob S. View Post
                Yeah, I know (I've read every issue of Cycle World cover to cover for over 20 years).

                I just don't like radiators or fairings on bikes. Or luggage racks. Or saddle bags. Or crash bars. Or...

                You get the idea. I want to see my engine (and it better have cooling fins!)
                Well put. The simpler bikes are, somehow, on many levels more satisfying and ... fun.
                "Thought he, it is a wicked world in all meridians; I'll die a pagan."
                ~Herman Melville

                2016 1200 Superlow
                1982 CB900f

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by mrbill5491 View Post
                  Why not, if its not burning oil, kept in tune etc etc and runs like a stripped a$$ ape...I would bet'cha it would be about the same hp. In some cases even a bit more since the rings are seated in good.
                  You are assuming that because it is not burning oil, it's just like brand new. Fact is, he did not get a dyno pull done this year in stock form before the pipe and jet so we don't know for sure how much hp it had. I can tell you though, when a friend of mine bought a 14 year old (at the time) GS1100E that ran just fine, no oil burning or smoking, and was pure stock, it definitely did not have as much hp as they did when brand new. How do we know? Trap speeds at the drags, we knew people who had these things brand new in the early 1980s and therefore knew what a fresh one was capable of back in the day.

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                    #24
                    Comparing dragstrip trap speeds has its own set of variables, though. I have the feeling that Jay Gleason got higher trap speeds than Joe Schmoe.
                    "Thought he, it is a wicked world in all meridians; I'll die a pagan."
                    ~Herman Melville

                    2016 1200 Superlow
                    1982 CB900f

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by GS1150Pilot View Post
                      Comparing dragstrip trap speeds has its own set of variables, though. I have the feeling that Jay Gleason got higher trap speeds than Joe Schmoe.
                      That's Mr. Schmoe to you.
                      1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red

                      2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.

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                        #26
                        LOL. I hear ya.
                        "Thought he, it is a wicked world in all meridians; I'll die a pagan."
                        ~Herman Melville

                        2016 1200 Superlow
                        1982 CB900f

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by jimb12 View Post
                          You are assuming that because it is not burning oil, it's just like brand new. Fact is, he did not get a dyno pull done this year in stock form before the pipe and jet so we don't know for sure how much hp it had. I can tell you though, when a friend of mine bought a 14 year old (at the time) GS1100E that ran just fine, no oil burning or smoking, and was pure stock, it definitely did not have as much hp as they did when brand new. How do we know? Trap speeds at the drags, we knew people who had these things brand new in the early 1980s and therefore knew what a fresh one was capable of back in the day.
                          There was also apparently large differences noted at the drags by otherwise identical bikes later attributed to manufacturing tolerances in head work. While I might tend to agree that aging might reduce up, 30 year after on this case the old gs seems to be improved with age which is less likely the case.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by GS1150Pilot View Post
                            Comparing dragstrip trap speeds has its own set of variables, though. I have the feeling that Jay Gleason got higher trap speeds than Joe Schmoe.
                            True, but we were comparing to actual people that we knew, not to the magazine articles of the day. It was far enough away from theirs that it was obvious the engine was not as sharp as new.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by jimb12 View Post
                              You are assuming that because it is not burning oil, it's just like brand new. Fact is, he did not get a dyno pull done this year in stock form before the pipe and jet so we don't know for sure how much hp it had. I can tell you though, when a friend of mine bought a 14 year old (at the time) GS1100E that ran just fine, no oil burning or smoking, and was pure stock, it definitely did not have as much hp as they did when brand new. How do we know? Trap speeds at the drags, we knew people who had these things brand new in the early 1980s and therefore knew what a fresh one was capable of back in the day.
                              I don't know, I bet my Suzukis runs better now than it did when brand new...
                              My Motorcycles:
                              22 Kawasaki Z900 RS (Candy Tone Blue)
                              22 BMW K1600GT (Probably been to a town near you)
                              82 1100e Drag Bike (needs race engine)
                              81 1100e Street Bike (with race engine)
                              79 1000e (all original)
                              82 850g (all original)
                              80 KZ 650F (needs restored)

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by jimb12 View Post
                                You are assuming that because it is not burning oil, it's just like brand new. Fact is, he did not get a dyno pull done this year in stock form before the pipe and jet so we don't know for sure how much hp it had. I can tell you though, when a friend of mine bought a 14 year old (at the time) GS1100E that ran just fine, no oil burning or smoking, and was pure stock, it definitely did not have as much hp as they did when brand new. How do we know? Trap speeds at the drags, we knew people who had these things brand new in the early 1980s and therefore knew what a fresh one was capable of back in the day.
                                I'm not assuming anything. Not burning oil indicates good sealing rings and valve seals not leaking.. Then again this is all academic and really doesn't mean much. We just enjoy our rides.
                                sigpicMrBill Been a GSR member on and off since April 2002
                                1980 GS 750E Bought new in Feb of 1980
                                2015 CAN AM RTS


                                Stuff I've done to my bike:dancing: 1100E front end with new Sonic springs, 1100E swing arm conversion with new Progressive shocks installed, 530 sprockets/chain conversion, new SS brake lines, new brake pads. New SS fasteners through out. Rebuilt carbs, new EBC clutch springs and horn installed. New paint. Motor runs strong.

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