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A quality sealed chain (o-ring, x-ring, whatever-ring) will essentially need one adjustment during its whole life, around the 500 mile or so mark (and that will be extremely minimal, if anything). It is not from the chain "stretching", it is from the chain loosening up a bit from its storage time in the box, and your inability to properly pull it tight when first installed.
After that, if you clean it regularly and use a water displacing chemical (WD-40 is great) on it after cleaning, it will give you at least 20,000 miles of adjustment free, reliable service.
If you have to adjust it after the initial break in period, there is something wrong. Either it is prematurely wearing for some reason, or your rear axle isn't staying in place (in which case, the chain will tend to get tighter, not looser).
I've never lost a clip type master link in thirty years and tens of thousands of miles of riding. Ever. I'm convinced the reason people lose them is because they aren't installed properly.
Of course, that's impossible to prove or disprove after the fact.sigpic
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Originally posted by GS1150Pilot View PostModern 530s are just as strong as the old dinosaur 630s. Possibly stronger.1984 GS1100GK newest addition to the heard
80 GS 1000gt- most favorite ride love this bike
1978 GS1000E- Known as "RoadKill" , Finished :D
83 gs750ed- first new purchase
85 EX500- vintage track weapon
1958Ducati 98 Tourismo
“Remember When in doubt use full throttle, It may not improve the situation ,but it will end the suspense ,
If it isn't going to make it faster or safer it isn't worth doing
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Originally posted by hjfisk View PostInall my riding years I have never broke a 630 chain, i have however broke 530's and 525's a few 520's.All I can say is that 630 must have been pretty trashed and had to be noisey. And I believe that the chain is in the replace zone of your marks about# 7. They also have a little replace sticker on the side of the adjuster itself
He also said my "ass-dyno" would not notice a difference (on a bike like my stock 1100EZ) by converting to 530.1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red
2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.
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630 is stronger than 530. The links are larger and thicker. More metal, heavier too. 630 was used when GS's were new because back then, 530's were margional. Now a days, even smaller chains are more than strong enough so there is no reason to use 630, which is heavier.Ed
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So, does that mean you're a convert now Rob?Last edited by mrbill5491; 05-04-2014, 04:37 PM.sigpicMrBill Been a GSR member on and off since April 2002
1980 GS 750E Bought new in Feb of 1980
2015 CAN AM RTS
Stuff I've done to my bike:dancing: 1100E front end with new Sonic springs, 1100E swing arm conversion with new Progressive shocks installed, 530 sprockets/chain conversion, new SS brake lines, new brake pads. New SS fasteners through out. Rebuilt carbs, new EBC clutch springs and horn installed. New paint. Motor runs strong.
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Originally posted by mrbill5491 View PostSo, does that mean you're a convert now Rob?
My Suzi was born a 630, she'll stay a 630.
Probably
Maybe.1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red
2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.
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Time to start shopping. Are there different materials for sprockets? Better brands?
What's the best? Not best price, best sprockets (and chain)?1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red
2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.
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Originally posted by koolaid_kid View PostI suggest calling Z1Enterprises and ordering from them.sigpicMrBill Been a GSR member on and off since April 2002
1980 GS 750E Bought new in Feb of 1980
2015 CAN AM RTS
Stuff I've done to my bike:dancing: 1100E front end with new Sonic springs, 1100E swing arm conversion with new Progressive shocks installed, 530 sprockets/chain conversion, new SS brake lines, new brake pads. New SS fasteners through out. Rebuilt carbs, new EBC clutch springs and horn installed. New paint. Motor runs strong.
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That 1100e isn't going to break a modern 530 chain without some serious work done to it. New modern 1000's come stock with 525's and 530's and 150 + hp no fear convert and save your self some money1984 GS1100GK newest addition to the heard
80 GS 1000gt- most favorite ride love this bike
1978 GS1000E- Known as "RoadKill" , Finished :D
83 gs750ed- first new purchase
85 EX500- vintage track weapon
1958Ducati 98 Tourismo
“Remember When in doubt use full throttle, It may not improve the situation ,but it will end the suspense ,
If it isn't going to make it faster or safer it isn't worth doing
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Originally posted by Rob S. View PostTime to start shopping. Are there different materials for sprockets? Better brands?
What's the best? Not best price, best sprockets (and chain)?
They might even install it for you.
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Originally posted by hjfisk View PostThat 1100e isn't going to break a modern 530 chain without some serious work done to it. New modern 1000's come stock with 525's and 530's and 150 + hp no fear convert and save your self some money1978 GS1085.
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Originally posted by Grand RougeThanks Ed for posting this. One BIG Difference that this correct illustration mentions re Chain Slack is: SAG. SAG as opposed to slack. Too many folks have set chain tightness so that total deflection up and down is 1.2 inches. Too tight by half. Correct total deflection would be twice that or 2.4 inches. Measurements with bike on center stand. Factory length shocks etc.
I destroyed factory chain way back in 1984 for that very reason. Toast in 5,000 miles. Thought I was doing it right. Nope.
I have confirmed too that with the 2 to 2.4 inches of total chain movement, there is easily a half inch of sag with the swing arm compressed so that the drive sprocket, the swing arm pivot and the rear axel are in a straight line.
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Originally posted by tkent02 View PostMore than 2.4" is OK, but less than 1.6" total will break chains as the swingarm goes up and down.
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