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    #16
    Stay far away from that shop.

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      #17
      Wow. $400?

      I'm about an hour north of you near New Castle. My time is pretty limited though having a 2 year old though.... but go to Advanced / AutoZone or wherever and take a spark plug with you and ask about a compression tester. Their tool rental program is pretty good. The spark plug is to make sure they have the right adapter btw.

      If you start a thread here with details and pictures, I'm sure you'll get plenty of help.

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        #18
        Storm 64: just came to my house and we got it fixed. They charged me 400 for shims and they put old shims in. He brought me one down and we put it in. Now compression is good, i learned alot. I do need carb cleaning still, so any suggestions would be appriciated. I have no clue how to do thoes now. Would appriciate any help i could get on cleaning those.
        Thanks.

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          #19


          Follow that TO THE LETTER and you will be sittin in tall cotton in no time!

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            #20
            Originally posted by storm 64 View Post
            How can he pay me? I work for beer... Maybe his mom can go on a beer run!
            I can ride over and at least see what's up. Have tools, Will travel...
            You are a good man, Storm.
            Just another example of what makes this such a great site.
            2@ \'78 GS1000

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              #21
              Compression tester, ha, I don't need no compression tester... I went over to Mitch's house today... I pulled out the #1 spark plug. I put my thumb over the plug hole. Nothing, no compression at all. I pulled out#4 just to get a comparison, oh yeah compression! We took off the valve cover. The #1 intake valve was tight. We put in the shim I had. It was at .004 a little loose but better than tight. We checked the compression on #1 and oh yeah compression! We put the fuel tank on, put some fuel to it. I'm hoping this thing is going to fire up... No go, it was only firing on one cylinder#2. It was getting a good spark, so I'm thinking carburetors. I didn't have time to mess with the carburetors. I told Mitch to check the forum for a carburetor repair man... One thing at a time I gess...
              My Motorcycles:
              22 Kawasaki Z900 RS (Candy Tone Blue)
              22 BMW K1600GT (Probably been to a town near you)
              82 1100e Drag Bike (needs race engine)
              81 1100e Street Bike (with race engine)
              79 1000e (all original)
              82 850g (all original)
              80 KZ 650F (needs restored)

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                #22
                Hey Mitchell , cleaning the carbs are not that hard , read up in bikecliff , but OEM gaskets only way to go , and get your orings from cyclerings , you can buy carb dip from a auto parts ,around 20$. and take pics of it all as you take apart , so you know where thing come from and how to put back, and as you see there is a long list of real good guys on this site more then willing to help , and when you as a question show a pic of what you are asking best you can ,. good luck and let us know how you are doing with it ,

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                  #23
                  If, after reading through the tutorial, you still feel like it's outside your comfort zone then there are several here that do it for a very reasonable price. Chef1366 and Steve come to mind. Contact either of them and I'm sure you will get her back on the road in short order.
                  http://img633.imageshack.us/img633/811/douMvs.jpg
                  1980 GS1000GT (Daily rider with a 1983 1100G engine)
                  1998 Honda ST1100 (Daily long distance rider)
                  1982 GS850GLZ (Daily rider when the weather is crap)

                  Darn, with so many daily riders it's hard to decide which one to jump on next.;)

                  JTGS850GL aka Julius

                  GS Resource Greetings

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                    #24
                    I don't use carb dip anymore. I find that boiling the carbs in water to much more effective and a lot more environmentally friendly. Use a large pot and your gas BBQ. If you do this in the kitchen your mom will kill you.

                    Tear them down until it's just the metal bodies, then boil them for 1 hour. What you want to do is remove all the lacquered fuel and debris in all the little passageways in the carb. The boiling water softens up that stuff and it will blow out with compressed air/carb cleaner when you're ready to re-assemble.

                    BTW, don't use carb cleaner on your new o-rings - it eats rubber. If you've already tried a whole can of carb cleaner on the old carbs, start over with a full re-build.

                    Don't reuse any o-rings or gaskets even if they look like they're fine. Find a kit that has everything included (way cheaper than trying to source all the parts).

                    Use a little clean engine oil on the new o-rings when you re-assemble so you don't tear or knick the new o-rings.

                    Use a Q-tip and some toothpaste (white paste not gel) on the float valve seat before you drop in the new float valve.

                    One thing I didn't quite understand the first dozen times I tried to rebuild carbs is that you're not just cleaning fuel passages, but you're sealing air passages too. Air leaks were the problem 95% of the time. All those new o-rings will help with that

                    If you don't have a compressor, a can of electronics cleaner with a little red straw works very well. It's great for confirming that all the passageways are clear.

                    Learn to sync the carbs. The bike will run like poo even if you have perfect carbs if they're not synced to each other. I built a twin carb sync tool out of clear tubing, red tranny fluid, and a 2x4. You can progressively sync one carb to the other that way. Eventually I found a real carb sync tool on craigslist.

                    That's all I have for now.

                    No shop is going to "teach you" for about 15 different reasons.

                    I've seen this sign more than once about shop rates:
                    Double the price if you watch.
                    Triple the price if you help.

                    Oh and, get a camera. We love pictures. Use your phone. Every 17yr old has a phone camera right?

                    We love to help. You'll be amazed at how much these guys know and are willing to share. Don't be afraid to ask 1,000,000 questions no matter how dumb you think the questions are.

                    I personally love to figure out the free or budget way to fix stuff. As I'm sure money is limited in your project.

                    Good luck,
                    Kevin

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                      #25
                      Hi guys, i have read your comments and looked at a couple different videos on the internet but it just isnt making any sence. I fully understand the valve shims because of storm64. Infact i will be replacing them my self next time but i cant get these carbs. I am willing to pay what ever if anyone is willing to come out and help me on them. Thanks

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by clutchthirty
                        Sorry to hijack, but do you split the carbs or just boil the whole rack without taking apart the throttle shaft, etc?
                        If you can keep them together, then the whole rack. Might save you some sync time. My pot wasn't big enough for that option.

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                          #27
                          Oh, for crying out loud, its enough to make a shepherd throw down his crook and fvk his flock.
                          You have been given excellent advice, here and on the numerous other threads you have started on the same topic.
                          Forget the bloody you tube videos, and LISTEN to the advice you are being given, there is a world of knowledge here to help you, but you seem hell bent on doing your own thing your way.
                          There are a few good step by step tutorials here to cleaning your carbs, one which jbthomp gave you a few posts back.

                          Here is an excellent one done by Nessim, one of the most senior respected members here.
                          Full techni-colour step by step, if you can not clean your carbs with this tutorial, put your bike up for sale and get something you don't have to work on.

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                            #28
                            Mitch,
                            I can't come over... Well, I could, but it would take me 40 hours to get there.

                            You can do this all via this forum and pictures. You've got 1,000 people here to help you, but of those 1,000, maybe 2 are in your area.

                            If you don't understand it, as least for me, it helps once you take it apart. Once you have the carb rack off the bike you can either start working on it with our help or box it up and send it somewhere.

                            Has this bike been sitting around for years? You might just have a plugged/restricted pilot jet. It's an easy fix with the rack off the bike.

                            -Kevin

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Zavallo62 View Post
                              I am willing to pay what ever if anyone is willing to come out and help me on them. Thanks
                              Pay whatever? OK. Round trip PDX to PIT is $651. You get the flight and I'll work on your bike for free.

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                                #30
                                The best tool you have is a digital camera or camera phone!

                                Tale a lot of pictures - from every angle - and close up and a bit farther off as you disassemble the carb rack.

                                Follow the tutorial others have linked here. Work slowly and methodically. If something is stuck - do not force it - be as patient as possible as you LEARN what things are and what they do.

                                If you can understand the shim process - you can understand carbs too ... Carbs are easier in my mind... but having those pictures to refer back to when you need to re-assemble the carb rack will be a valuable resource.

                                Water and simple green make an excellent cleaner - soak and rinse - I use it in my ultrasonic cleaner for carbs - I have carb dip - but only use it in extreme gummed up cases.

                                Buy the orings and the float bowl gaskets and the new screws the tutorial talks about -
                                Ask a lot of questions AS YOU GO - but be attentive and patient with the answers .

                                You CAN do this ...

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