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    #16
    If I wanted to do the cheapest and easiest first I would do the valve adjustments. Need a cam cover gasket, some metric feeler gauges, some RTV for above the rubber half moon cam end plugs,and an hr or so time wise.

    Get whatever shims you need from the Ray at the shim club. How that works is you check all the clearances and shuffle whatever you can to get as many valves set. Then you PM Ray and tell him what sizes you need for the ones out of spec..if any. Once the replacements get there you swap them out and send Ray back the ones you no longer need. VERY IMPORTANT NOTE------DO NOT EVER rotate the crank without a shim in a bucket!!!

    This is the thread I started on how I go about doing the checks and recording each cylinders shim, gap, shim thats needed, etc etc.

    MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
    1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

    NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


    I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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      #17
      I've been looking for somewhere that sells a cam cover gasket, but I can't seem to find it. Where is this elusive cover gasket selling?

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        #18
        As for the gas in the tank now. Use a length of vacuum line or whatever else fits the fuel nipple and set the petcock on the PRIme spot and it will drain itself in to the gas can. And have you also inspected the tank to be sure its as rust free as possible?? And just because it looks good in the filler neck doesnt necessarily mean the entire tank looks like that so dont take things for granted.

        Flashlight and a small inspection mirror is a good idea to see how the rear and the edge seams look like..which is where most of the crap is gonna build up and for bad spots.
        MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
        1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

        NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


        I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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          #19
          I just cleaned out the gas tank this weekend really good of all the rust, and put a new protective liner in it, and there was no more rattling rust in it. It's as good as it's gonna get as far as that goes, and I also put an inline fuel filter in.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Anthony View Post
            I've been looking for somewhere that sells a cam cover gasket, but I can't seem to find it. Where is this elusive cover gasket selling?
            Z1, partzilla, deland suzuki, G&S Suzuki, should all carry the required gasket. If all else fails, you can order through your local Suzuki dealer (assuming you have one)

            These guys too, but shipping will probably hurt as they are in Canada

            '83 GS650G
            '83 GS550es (didn't like the colours in the 80's, but they've grown on me)

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              #21
              Cool on the liner...didnt see that you had already done that.

              I had another idea (provided the tank has been at least washed with some dish soap or something to eliminate fumes )....take a small Xmas tree bulb and stick inside the tank to illuminate it fully from inside. The the mirror will be able to see real good in there!!
              MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
              1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

              NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


              I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                #22
                Originally posted by chuck hahn View Post
                If I wanted to do the cheapest and easiest first I would do the valve adjustments. Need a cam cover gasket, some metric feeler gauges, some RTV for above the rubber half moon cam end plugs,and an hr or so time wise.

                Get whatever shims you need from the Ray at the shim club. How that works is you check all the clearances and shuffle whatever you can to get as many valves set. Then you PM Ray and tell him what sizes you need for the ones out of spec..if any. Once the replacements get there you swap them out and send Ray back the ones you no longer need. VERY IMPORTANT NOTE------DO NOT EVER rotate the crank without a shim in a bucket!!!

                This is the thread I started on how I go about doing the checks and recording each cylinders shim, gap, shim thats needed, etc etc.

                http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...ed+spreadsheet
                If he is working on the bike in his signature- Anthony (AJ) Current Project: 1982 Suzuki GS750E , he doesn't have the bucket shims. He has the adjustable rockers. As for the in-line fuel filter, these bikes are gravity fed, sometimes if it isn't the right type of in filter, it can restrict the fuel flow. I don't use a in line filter on mine at all.
                sigpicMrBill Been a GSR member on and off since April 2002
                1980 GS 750E Bought new in Feb of 1980
                2015 CAN AM RTS


                Stuff I've done to my bike:dancing: 1100E front end with new Sonic springs, 1100E swing arm conversion with new Progressive shocks installed, 530 sprockets/chain conversion, new SS brake lines, new brake pads. New SS fasteners through out. Rebuilt carbs, new EBC clutch springs and horn installed. New paint. Motor runs strong.

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                  #23
                  So what does the adjustable rockers mean for doing a valve adjustment? And it's just a normal $5 fuel filter.

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                    #24
                    Yeah...somewhere in my head I had 850 stuck. I went to Cliffs to see if there was an 850 manual even!! Then later went and saw the bike was the 750 E.
                    Youll notice a later post where I said to choose whatever one applies to his bike ( realizing my mistaken assumption ).
                    MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                    1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                    NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                    I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Anthony View Post
                      So what does the adjustable rockers mean for doing a valve adjustment? And it's just a normal $5 fuel filter.
                      Two wrenches and a feeler gauge and you're done

                      Did you consider ordering the valve cover gasket from your local Suzuki dealer? That's what I do for a $20 part
                      1978 GS 1000 (since new)
                      1979 GS 1000 (The Fridge, superbike replica project)
                      1978 GS 1000 (parts)
                      1981 GS 850 (anyone want a project?)
                      1981 GPZ 550 (backroad screamer)
                      1970 450 Mk IIID (THUMP!)
                      2007 DRz 400S
                      1999 ATK 490ES
                      1994 DR 350SES

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                        #26
                        Not sure I have a feeler gauge, where should I get one from? And that's what I was going to do. Hopefully I get the same price from them. I rode my bike more tonight and between anywhere above 4k RPM (mainly 4-7) I could feel my bike chugging, and not smooth acceleration at all, and idle is still bad, not consistent at all. Could this be the acceleration pump in the carbs, or too rich of fuel caused by improper re-jetting from PO?

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                          #27
                          These carbs are not like the Keihin carbs you'll find on many of the Hondas, there is no accelerator pump, per se. What you do have is your "choke" or enrichener.

                          The symptoms add up to two things: improper/incomplete carb cleaning/synch and possible fuel starvation due to jetting/pods. You are going to have to tackle one possible problem at a time.
                          '83 GS650G
                          '83 GS550es (didn't like the colours in the 80's, but they've grown on me)

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                            #28
                            I do have a 4 to 1 pipe, and the air filters need to be replaced still. It's possible the carbs never got re-jetted when the 4 to 1 was installed, and pods. So, i'll have to measure the jets and see if it's stock. And I know they need to be cleaned more thoroughly, and I don't know what a carb synch involves.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Anthony View Post
                              I do have a 4 to 1 pipe, and the air filters need to be replaced still. It's possible the carbs never got re-jetted when the 4 to 1 was installed, and pods. So, i'll have to measure the jets and see if it's stock. And I know they need to be cleaned more thoroughly, and I don't know what a carb synch involves.
                              You won't need to measure the jets, the jet size is stamped right on them. What brand of pods? If it were me, I would go back to the stock air box in a heart beat.Makes tuning the carbs much much easier. Your valve adjustment is easier to do then a shim bucket set up, though you have 16 valves to adjust rather then 8. Ditch the fuel filter, chances are it is restricting your fuel flow.
                              Last edited by mrbill5491; 06-20-2014, 11:18 AM.
                              sigpicMrBill Been a GSR member on and off since April 2002
                              1980 GS 750E Bought new in Feb of 1980
                              2015 CAN AM RTS


                              Stuff I've done to my bike:dancing: 1100E front end with new Sonic springs, 1100E swing arm conversion with new Progressive shocks installed, 530 sprockets/chain conversion, new SS brake lines, new brake pads. New SS fasteners through out. Rebuilt carbs, new EBC clutch springs and horn installed. New paint. Motor runs strong.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by mrbill5491 View Post
                                You won't need to measure the jets, the jet size is stamped right on them. What brand of pods? If it were me, I would go back to the stock air box in a heart beat.Makes tuning the carbs much much easier. Your valve adjustment is easier to do then a shim bucket set up, though you have 16 valves to adjust rather then 8. Ditch the fuel filter, chances are it is restricting your fuel flow.
                                Thanks for the input. And the pods are just some generic brand, they are not good at all, I need to replace them. I'd rather just get new ones than put an air box back on though, as it's already been done. And I'm glad the valve adjustment will be easier on my bike. I have a manual for my bike, but is there a more visual aid somewhere (or detailed) on how to do a valve adjustment on my type of engine? Also, I did the fuel filter because I didn't want any extra particles or crap getting into the carbs. But if it restricts my fuel flow, I'll take it off.

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