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    Just got done replacing intake boots, sealing airbox and exhaust, valve adjustment, reset timing, new spark plug boots and wires. Started right up after a month of sitting, but #2 is running weak. Exhaust gets hot( not sure if it gets as hot as the others or not.) but when pullng boots there is barely any ( if any) difference on how the motor runs. When shimming valves #2 was really tight on ex side...valve not burnt, bent or chipped. Was 5 sizes to big of shim on #2 ex . All others had clearence but barely. Just looking for some input for things to look at when I get off work. Thanks

    #2
    Idle scew set at 2 1/4 a turn. Stock air box, after market exhaust. Carbs have been rejetted.

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      #3
      Did you completely strip and rebuild carbs with fresh o rings? Strip and dip or sonic cleaned? Not just a spray and pray? That's going to be the first question the grumpy old men (lol) are going to ask you. Are the valves all in spec now?

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        #4
        I did a complete cleaning years ago, and do quick cleanings every month. Valves are in spec now. Do i really nees to tear down the carbs again? I keep them pretty clean. But I suppose it wouldn't hurt to strip them again. Just really dont want too, since i just got bike put back together.

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          #5
          I'd check the plugs and the petcock before I stripped the carbs

          If the #2 plug is significantly richer, a leaky petcock may be your problem, it's leaking gas down the vacuum line into the carb
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            #6
            Originally posted by Big T View Post
            I'd check the plugs and the petcock before I stripped the carbs

            If the #2 plug is significantly richer, a leaky petcock may be your problem, it's leaking gas down the vacuum line into the carb
            I agree with that. That would be the first thing I checked. The next thing I would check would be the compression on #2.
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              #7
              Originally posted by kjsamm View Post
              When shimming valves #2 was really tight on ex side...valve not burnt, bent or chipped.
              How did you synchronise the carbs?
              How do you know the valves are not burnt?
              Compression check?

              And how much has the engine been run lately?
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                #8
                Originally posted by tkent02 View Post
                How did you synchronise the carbs?
                How do you know the valves are not burnt?
                Compression check?

                And how much has the engine been run lately?
                Carbs are bench synced

                I looked at them

                no compression check yet, but with that valve not being able to seat for so long I wouldn't doubt that there is a lot of carbon build up still stopping it from seating properly giving me little to no compression.

                Bike has only been run for 5-10 min since i got it all put back together.

                petcock is a new from a few years ago.

                Just started bike for a min (as its late i didn't run it too long) checked spark at #2 and its strong. In the little bit in ran exhaust for #'s 1,3 and 4 are warm #2 is cold.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Big T View Post
                  I'd check the plugs and the petcock before I stripped the carbs

                  If the #2 plug is significantly richer, a leaky petcock may be your problem, it's leaking gas down the vacuum line into the carb
                  When I pulled plugs before my tear down #2 was running rich. The rest were good.
                  If it were leaking gas down vacuum line wouldn't #2 still fire? It has all it needs to fire...air, fuel (i'm guessing, if it was leaking) and spark.
                  Last edited by Guest; 07-20-2014, 01:22 AM.

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                    #10
                    Not a a petcock issue. After starting the bike and running for a min, (#2 still dead) I pulled off the vacuum hose to petcock and it was dry, as was the nipple it attaches to. Also I would think that if that were leaking even the slightest I would have noticed, as the tank had been sitting on a wooden bench for the past 6 weeks.

                    New thought, I am unsure at the moment but I believe that #2 does eventually fire. As the plug was never wet and read as a rich cylinder condition.
                    Last edited by Guest; 07-20-2014, 02:49 AM.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by kjsamm View Post
                      Carbs are bench synced

                      I looked at them
                      You pulled the head off to look at the valves?
                      Bench synch isn't enough, could be that cylinder isn't doing much because it's out of synch.
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                        #12
                        If #2 exhaust valve needed a shim 5 steps thinner than before, there is a very good chance it's burned.
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                          #13
                          I pulled exhaust on #2 and took a flexible light and mirror and looked at valve. Looked fine.

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                            #14
                            She lives, just took awhile for carbon to burn off that valve. But #2 cylinder is firing now.
                            Runs pretty good except I still have a slight hanging throttle after slow down when coming to a stop. Air leaks are fixed, what else could it be?

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by kjsamm View Post
                              She lives, just took awhile for carbon to burn off that valve. But #2 cylinder is firing now.
                              Runs pretty good except I still have a slight hanging throttle after slow down when coming to a stop. Air leaks are fixed, what else could it be?
                              Hanging idle is an air leak, keep looking.
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