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    Compression issue on 83 GS1100E

    I was hoping that I might have some stuck rings that would break loose with time and Sea Foam. Dry test was really low in three of four cylinders--one barely registers but comes right up on wet test. Oddly, it idles smoothly and on a couple of short rides in the neighborhood it felt smooth through the rpm range but the tires are old and on the last ride I could feel them vibrate even at low speed so it's parked until they are replaced. Today I put a fan in front of the bike and let it idle for about 20 minutes or so with Sea Foam in the fuel and oil hoping it might show some sign of healing but by the end it was still puffing a little smoke.

    How long should I expect to run it to see the rings un-stick or just resolve to rebuild?

    If I do rebuild, what improvements should I make or is it good as original?
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    1983 GS1100E (Bought July 2014)
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    #2
    You might consider a leak down to pinpoint exactly where the issue is..

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      #3
      you might just ride it and way your options in a few weeks.
      low #'s and run fine don't go together...

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        #4
        Originally posted by jwhelan65 View Post
        You might consider a leak down to pinpoint exactly where the issue is..
        If dry test is low and wet test is high, it's rings, right?
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        1983 GS1100E (Bought July 2014)
        1985 GS700ES (Bought June 2015) Sold
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          #5
          Started the engine just now with the compression gauge connected to #2. With the engine running the compression went to 120 then down to 50 and stayed there.
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          1985 GS700ES (Bought June 2015) Sold
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            #6
            Originally posted by glib View Post
            Started the engine just now with the compression gauge connected to #2. With the engine running the compression went to 120 then down to 50 and stayed there.
            seriously????

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              #7
              Originally posted by posplayr View Post
              seriously????
              Answering a question with a question is usually used to control the direction of a conversation. So, lead on...

              (Yes, seriously)
              Last edited by glib; 08-22-2014, 11:02 PM. Reason: additional comment
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              1983 GS1100E (Bought July 2014)
              1985 GS700ES (Bought June 2015) Sold
              On Christ the Solid Rock I Stand
              All Other Ground is Sinking Sand

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                #8
                "started the engine"?....i wouldn't be running the engine with the tester attached.
                2@ \'78 GS1000

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by steve murdoch View Post
                  "started the engine"?....i wouldn't be running the engine with the tester attached.
                  ~~~ditto~~~

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                    #10
                    I don't see how five seconds (50 to 100 revolutions since it was barely kicking over without the choke on) would matter enough be concerned. Why is this the focus of the responses rather than the compression issue?
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                    1983 GS1100E (Bought July 2014)
                    1985 GS700ES (Bought June 2015) Sold
                    On Christ the Solid Rock I Stand
                    All Other Ground is Sinking Sand

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by glib View Post
                      I don't see how five seconds (50 to 100 revolutions since it was barely kicking over without the choke on) would matter enough be concerned. Why is this the focus of the responses rather than the compression issue?
                      I suspect the manufacturer of the compression tester would void any warranty for running an engine with the testor installed, and I suspect most around here would avoid a diagnosis based on results from that type of test.

                      If it were me I'd try and figure out if the gauge is damaged or get another.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by blowerbike View Post
                        you might just ride it and way your options in a few weeks.
                        low #'s and run fine don't go together...
                        my point from yesterday was....
                        an engine takes 70-80lbs ish to pop.
                        you said it seemed to run fine...well then then ride it and see how things go.
                        IMO you are testing the compression wrong or you have faulty equipment.

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                          #13
                          Fair enough. I'll get another gauge.

                          That said, I don't see how doing 20 tests of five compression strokes would be significantly different on the gauge that one test of 100 strokes. But no doubt I could be wrong. I'd just like to know why instead of getting "seriously????"
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                          1983 GS1100E (Bought July 2014)
                          1985 GS700ES (Bought June 2015) Sold
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                          All Other Ground is Sinking Sand

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by glib View Post
                            Fair enough. I'll get another gauge.

                            That said, I don't see how doing 20 tests of five compression strokes would be significantly different on the gauge that one test of 100 strokes. But no doubt I could be wrong. I'd just like to know why instead of getting "seriously????"
                            I also hate when people don't read or appear to respond to what is posted, but I just learn to deal with it .

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                              #15
                              Run the engine with the tester installed? That is a first. Did you open the throttle when you did the test?
                              Have you even adjusted the valve clearances yet?

                              You don't have a compression issue, you have a maintenance issue.
                              Last edited by tkent02; 08-23-2014, 02:30 PM.
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