Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

New clutch no worky!

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

    New clutch no worky!

    I replaced the friction plates only. I use Barnett plates. Looks like my stack height must be too tall. I thought I could break it free but all I've achieved is doing little tiny burnouts with the starter motor in my garage.
    1981 GS 1100e turbo, 83 motor, turbo pistons, new head, new turbo, backed and welded clutch basket, Dyna S ignition, cbr 929 front end, gsxr 750 rear end with 190 tire, all carbon fiber covered bodywork.

    #2
    Just to check, are you sure you got the top hat lined up properly?

    Been there, done that (embarrassingly several times).
    79 GS1000S
    79 GS1000S (another one)
    80 GSX750
    80 GS550
    80 CB650 cafe racer
    75 PC50 - the one with OHV and pedals...
    75 TS100 - being ridden (suicidally) by my father

    Comment


      #3
      Mine is set in so that the grooved interlock. Does it have a specific location beyond that? It's my second time replacing a clutch, and my second fail.
      1981 GS 1100e turbo, 83 motor, turbo pistons, new head, new turbo, backed and welded clutch basket, Dyna S ignition, cbr 929 front end, gsxr 750 rear end with 190 tire, all carbon fiber covered bodywork.

      Comment


        #4
        If the grooves are interlocked it's nothing to do with that.
        79 GS1000S
        79 GS1000S (another one)
        80 GSX750
        80 GS550
        80 CB650 cafe racer
        75 PC50 - the one with OHV and pedals...
        75 TS100 - being ridden (suicidally) by my father

        Comment


          #5
          Just so you know Barnett plates will destroy a clutch basket.
          How many plates are you using
          Last edited by stetracer; 10-05-2014, 05:25 PM.
          My stable
          84 GSX1100EFG-10.62 @ 125 mph 64'' W/B.
          85 GS1150-9.72@146mph stock W/B.
          88 GSXR1100-dragbike 9.18@139.92mph/5.68@118mph.
          98 Bandit 1200-9.38@146mph/6.02@121mph.
          90 Suzuki GS 1425cc FBG Pro Stock chassis 5.42@124mph
          06 GSXR750 10.44@135mph
          00 Honda elite 80 pit bike

          Comment


            #6
            How so? Fibers or rings.
            1981 GS 1100e turbo, 83 motor, turbo pistons, new head, new turbo, backed and welded clutch basket, Dyna S ignition, cbr 929 front end, gsxr 750 rear end with 190 tire, all carbon fiber covered bodywork.

            Comment


              #7
              9 of each. It's what it was like with the stock fibers. The stack is about 1/2 a plate taller with the new friction plates. I'm using 6 heavy springs too.
              1981 GS 1100e turbo, 83 motor, turbo pistons, new head, new turbo, backed and welded clutch basket, Dyna S ignition, cbr 929 front end, gsxr 750 rear end with 190 tire, all carbon fiber covered bodywork.

              Comment


                #8
                The tabs on the Barnett fiber plates are half the thickness of the stock plates which dig into the basket and grove it up. Did you replace your steel plates or check them for warping
                My stable
                84 GSX1100EFG-10.62 @ 125 mph 64'' W/B.
                85 GS1150-9.72@146mph stock W/B.
                88 GSXR1100-dragbike 9.18@139.92mph/5.68@118mph.
                98 Bandit 1200-9.38@146mph/6.02@121mph.
                90 Suzuki GS 1425cc FBG Pro Stock chassis 5.42@124mph
                06 GSXR750 10.44@135mph
                00 Honda elite 80 pit bike

                Comment


                  #9
                  9 fibers and 8 steel. You start with a fiber and end with a fiber.
                  Even with the Barnett is the same so now you have found your problem
                  My stable
                  84 GSX1100EFG-10.62 @ 125 mph 64'' W/B.
                  85 GS1150-9.72@146mph stock W/B.
                  88 GSXR1100-dragbike 9.18@139.92mph/5.68@118mph.
                  98 Bandit 1200-9.38@146mph/6.02@121mph.
                  90 Suzuki GS 1425cc FBG Pro Stock chassis 5.42@124mph
                  06 GSXR750 10.44@135mph
                  00 Honda elite 80 pit bike

                  Comment


                    #10
                    I'll check again. I assumed they were the same in count. I know I ended in a fiber and started with a steel. The first steel is held in place by a giant cir-clip. Thanks for all this guidance, this is a great site.
                    1981 GS 1100e turbo, 83 motor, turbo pistons, new head, new turbo, backed and welded clutch basket, Dyna S ignition, cbr 929 front end, gsxr 750 rear end with 190 tire, all carbon fiber covered bodywork.

                    Comment


                      #11
                      Originally posted by turbojonn View Post
                      I'll check again. I assumed they were the same in count. I know I ended in a fiber and started with a steel. The first steel is held in place by a giant cir-clip. Thanks for all this guidance, this is a great site.
                      Then that is correct I was not counting that steel held in with the cir clip because most guy don't remove it
                      My stable
                      84 GSX1100EFG-10.62 @ 125 mph 64'' W/B.
                      85 GS1150-9.72@146mph stock W/B.
                      88 GSXR1100-dragbike 9.18@139.92mph/5.68@118mph.
                      98 Bandit 1200-9.38@146mph/6.02@121mph.
                      90 Suzuki GS 1425cc FBG Pro Stock chassis 5.42@124mph
                      06 GSXR750 10.44@135mph
                      00 Honda elite 80 pit bike

                      Comment


                        #12
                        I'm betting if I get the barnett steels it will be the correct stack height.
                        1981 GS 1100e turbo, 83 motor, turbo pistons, new head, new turbo, backed and welded clutch basket, Dyna S ignition, cbr 929 front end, gsxr 750 rear end with 190 tire, all carbon fiber covered bodywork.

                        Comment


                          #13
                          Originally posted by turbojonn View Post
                          I'm betting if I get the barnett steels it will be the correct stack height.
                          Thats got to be it difference in the fiber thickness. What does the inside of the clutch basket look like? Is it groves up where the clutch plate ears dig in? If the basket is good I would not use those Barnett plates and get some stock plates
                          Last edited by stetracer; 10-05-2014, 10:45 PM.
                          My stable
                          84 GSX1100EFG-10.62 @ 125 mph 64'' W/B.
                          85 GS1150-9.72@146mph stock W/B.
                          88 GSXR1100-dragbike 9.18@139.92mph/5.68@118mph.
                          98 Bandit 1200-9.38@146mph/6.02@121mph.
                          90 Suzuki GS 1425cc FBG Pro Stock chassis 5.42@124mph
                          06 GSXR750 10.44@135mph
                          00 Honda elite 80 pit bike

                          Comment


                            #14
                            6 HD springs is the killer.........
                            is the fiber plates steel backed or aluminum?
                            the thing is....the after market plates have a very aggressive material.
                            i use OEM for stock and race.
                            i used OEM in an alky turbo with no problems but with a lock up of course(which is really what you need) with your set up.

                            Comment


                              #15
                              Aluminum backed. I wondered about the hd springs. The fiber stack is only about 1/2 a steels thickness thicker than stock.
                              1981 GS 1100e turbo, 83 motor, turbo pistons, new head, new turbo, backed and welded clutch basket, Dyna S ignition, cbr 929 front end, gsxr 750 rear end with 190 tire, all carbon fiber covered bodywork.

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X