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    Just got a 650 suzuki from my gramps for christmas. We are working to get it ready for spring. It has some leaks, ect and gramps says it needs shimmed up and head tightened. I'm very new to bikes and am learning. Can someone suggest a shop book for this bike? Trying to figure out what he is talking about before I get there on Saturday. **Thanks**

    #2
    Wow, early Xmas gift! Good winter project. Are you ok with mechanical stuff? Got tools or can borrow them? Go here and download a manual for your 650- is it a shafty or chain rear drive?



    about how old is grandpa?
    1981 gs650L

    "We are all born ignorant, but you have to work hard to stay stupid" Ben Franklin

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      #3
      i wish your gramps was mine too and give me a gs 650 i know clymer publish a workshop manual for the 650; and you can get a genuine suzuki one; although i've never had a suzuki book; i searched through the haynes on-line catalogue and they don't list one; but the gs 650's weren't very common here in the uk; there are some on-line manuals to down-load; but who; what or how good i really dont know; i think you'd probably need to suck it and see;
      'shimming' is a reference to valve clearance adjustment, via use of different thickness 'shims' on top of the bucket to get the correct valve gap; tightening the head simply means retightening the bolts/nuts securing the cylinder head through the barrels (jugs?) to the crankcases. this may work without fitting of a new gasket; and i'd try it first; valve cover and camshaft end rubber oil leaks are an easy fix; a new gasket and new end plugs, make sure all the bolt hole threads are good; be careful tightening the bolts or you'll strip the threads; cam chain tensioner oil leaks are two bolts and a new gasket, fiddly as hell without removing the carbs; good luck mate; Robbie; Salisbury; dry but cold

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        #4
        Originally posted by tom203 View Post
        Wow, early Xmas gift! Good winter project. Are you ok with mechanical stuff? Got tools or can borrow them? Go here and download a manual for your 650- is it a shafty or chain rear drive?



        about how old is grandpa?
        Thanks for the link, that is just what we need for the bike. Their is no computer at my grandparents house so I need to someone print that out, lot's of pages!

        Gramps just retired and I think he is 66 or 67. I have no experience with mechanics so I am relying on gramps but I need to get up to speed to be helpful and learn this bike myself. I have been riding a 2010 gz250 and I am ready to grduate up to a bigger bike. I ride sometimes with gramps and his old bud's and sometimes it's hard to keep up with the Harley pack.

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          #5
          Originally posted by robbiem1961 View Post
          i wish your gramps was mine too and give me a gs 650 i know clymer publish a workshop manual for the 650; and you can get a genuine suzuki one; although i've never had a suzuki book; i searched through the haynes on-line catalogue and they don't list one; but the gs 650's weren't very common here in the uk; there are some on-line manuals to down-load; but who; what or how good i really dont know; i think you'd probably need to suck it and see;
          'shimming' is a reference to valve clearance adjustment, via use of different thickness 'shims' on top of the bucket to get the correct valve gap; tightening the head simply means retightening the bolts/nuts securing the cylinder head through the barrels (jugs?) to the crankcases. this may work without fitting of a new gasket; and i'd try it first; valve cover and camshaft end rubber oil leaks are an easy fix; a new gasket and new end plugs, make sure all the bolt hole threads are good; be careful tightening the bolts or you'll strip the threads; cam chain tensioner oil leaks are two bolts and a new gasket, fiddly as hell without removing the carbs; good luck mate; Robbie; Salisbury; dry but cold
          Yeah, I have a lot to learn, thanks for the input. gramps thinks those small leaks will go away with head torqueing , i hope so. He bought it with carbs in a box and we will be looking at them this weekend also.

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            #6
            Sometimes real newbies can learn a lot from things like this, fun to have around if you own the bike-

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              #7
              "Carbs in a box..." So was this gramps ride or something he scooped to gift to lucky you? I hope that he's got the stock airbox stuff somewhere , looks like this
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              1981 gs650L

              "We are all born ignorant, but you have to work hard to stay stupid" Ben Franklin

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                #8
                Originally posted by tom203 View Post
                "Carbs in a box..." So was this gramps ride or something he scooped to gift to lucky you? I hope that he's got the stock airbox stuff somewhere , looks like this
                Gramps grabbed this up from across the river (nebraska). He didn't provide me many details but the carbs were in a box along with the starter, some brake discs and I think a clutch also. Tank was not on when he showed to me. Not sure about airbox, will look on saturday and hope to take some pics while I am there

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                  #9
                  With any luck, the plastic airbox will still be wedged in bike frame, if it wasn't sawzalled out to speed carb removal. Sounds like gramps plans to keep you busy this winter.
                  1981 gs650L

                  "We are all born ignorant, but you have to work hard to stay stupid" Ben Franklin

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by cyclepat650 View Post
                    Gramps grabbed this up from across the river (nebraska). He didn't provide me many details but the carbs were in a box along with the starter, some brake discs and I think a clutch also. Tank was not on when he showed to me. Not sure about airbox, will look on saturday and hope to take some pics while I am there
                    Pictures will be a great boon to this thread. The folks chiming in will have reference material and that may answer some of the questions.
                    Take a lot of pictures - well lit - from a variety of angles - and post a lot of the good ones for all to see...
                    The recommendations will come pouring in and you will be well on your way to a complete understanding of your new-to-you bike as well as getting it back together....


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                      #11
                      Originally posted by cyclepat650 View Post
                      Yeah, I have a lot to learn, thanks for the input. gramps thinks those small leaks will go away with head torqueing , i hope so. He bought it with carbs in a box and we will be looking at them this weekend also.
                      Be sure to measure the tourque - the heads are surprisingly low from what I recall when we had mine off this past winter -
                      Someone here can add the torque value - but snapping it off will ruin your day...

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by tom203 View Post
                        "Carbs in a box..." So was this gramps ride or something he scooped to gift to lucky you? I hope that he's got the stock airbox stuff somewhere , looks like this
                        Unless its an E... then it won't look exactly like that. OP - does it have a chain? Or is it shaft drive?

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by huntb View Post
                          Unless its an E... then it won't look exactly like that. OP - does it have a chain? Or is it shaft drive?
                          It is a chain dive and yes it has the air box. Having troubles though, will try and post in the rite category

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