Pulled the oil pan and found these bits of metal - help me ID?

[mikerophone]

Wondering the same. PO ran it hard up a long steep slippery forest service road a couple years ago and told me he burned it up.

[blowerbike]

i'd find a complete (ALL) from the trans bearing out in an assembly form from a parted 850.
clean clean and clean some more and install your new/used parts.
what you need should be really cheap...30.00-100.00 on ebay.

[mikerophone]

i'd find a complete (ALL) from the trans bearing out in an assembly form from a parted 850.
clean clean and clean some more and install your new/used parts.
what you need should be really cheap...30.00-100.00 on ebay.

Thanks blowerbike - I hope so. To confirm, from part #20 on out?

[blowerbike]

that will work but i was talking about #2 on out.
i have bought a few 1100/1150 and even a couple J model complete assembly's for 10 bucks and up...i'm not kidding.
from the trans bearing washer to the clutch springs and everything in between.
not saying you need it all but this way you have more than enough to repair the damage and you don't have to second guess any of your flamed out parts.
that's why i bought the stuff i mentioned...i didn't need them but they was cheeeeeep!

[mikerophone]

that will work but i was talking about #2 on out.
i have bought a few 1100/1150 and even a couple J model complete assembly's for 10 bucks and up...i'm not kidding.
from the trans bearing washer to the clutch springs and everything in between.
not saying you need it all but this way you have more than enough to repair the damage and you don't have to second guess any of your flamed out parts.
that's why i bought the stuff i mentioned...i didn't need them but they was cheeeeeep!

Gotta love cheap! And spare parts are nice to have...

Jameswhut on here is parting out an 81 750 and I've contacted him, looks like most parts are the same but I'll start looking for an 850.

[blowerbike]

i think the basket's different...the rest should be the same or close going off of memory.
750 basket has more teeth.
a lot of e bay sellers sell as a complete assembly...that's where my low priced stuff came from.

[blowerbike]

this is how i find stuff when i don't need it...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1979-Suzuki-GS850G-GS850-GS-850G-850-clutch-clutches-engine-motor-/221576847446?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3397026056&vxp=mtr

http://www.ebay.com/itm/80-SUZUKI-GS850-GS-850-CLUTCH-BASKET-PLATES-SPRINGS-OEM-/400468930221?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5d3dceeead&vxp=mtr

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1981-SUZUKI-GS-850-Engine-Clutch-Basket-Housing-Steel-Plates-Springs-6434-/190799494607?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2c6c893dcf&vxp=mtr

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1981-Suzuki-GS850GL-GS850-GS-850-clutch-basket-assembly-/291349375206?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43d5c6a8e6&vxp=mtr

[blowerbike]

here is the search i used (suzuki 850 clutch)...i found 6 more and there's still several pages left.
go with the cleanest/best looking/best info/most complete/lowest millage if info is offered...they can and do fib.
don't necessarily go with the cheapest but i think you can get some nice parts for under 50 to your door.
good luck.

[mikerophone]

Nice! Thanks again blowerbike you're the man!

The drive and driven plate part numbers are the same, so you'd think the baskets would be, but I'll do some digging, I know they share a lot of common parts but some are indeed different.



Pickup up screen was clean so I don't think anything got inside the engine, just in the pan and clutch cover. At least I hope so. Don't see any way it could have from the drawings and pictures I've seen. I think Richards was from something inside the engine -and- the clutch IIRC.

[blowerbike]

if the question is on a 750 basket..........nope...to many teeth.
suzuki used the same clutch pack i think from 550-850's.

[mikerophone]

if the question is on a 750 basket..........nope...to many teeth.
suzuki used the same clutch pack i think from 550-850's.

Gotcha. Well since you found me several that are cheap enough on eBay, I'll go that route. One listing even has the bearings included. Thinking I'll just pick up a good/cheap one and order the bearings.

Is is the piano wire re-usable if not bent out of shape?

[blowerbike]

well i thought the smaller clutch stuff didn't have a piano wire...maybe the 750 don't...hmmm
maybe yes, maybe no on reusing it.
if you grab a complete assembly just inspect it and install it..no need to pull the last steel off the inner hub.
buy nice looking medium priced stuff...the bearing last a life time...don't over think or over spend.
not necessary..
if the clutch slips add 3 HD springs or maybe then splurge for new fibers.

[mikerophone]

Thanks again!

Thanks for the straightforward, practical advice and recommendations.

Luckily I am not in a huge hurry since I can't ride the thing for months anyway....so I'll wait for the right assembly at the right price and replace my bearings too since they got a little charred.

[londonboards]

blowerbike - what are the possibilities of any of that shrapnel spinning around the motor and damaging crank and gearbox parts? I'm pretty sure the damage to my crank (in the GS1150) was due to the clutch explosion. But I stand corrected if it wasn't.

Greetings

[blowerbike]

blowerbike - what are the possibilities of any of that shrapnel spinning around the motor and damaging crank and gearbox parts? I'm pretty sure the damage to my crank (in the GS1150) was due to the clutch explosion. But I stand corrected if it wasn't.

Greetings

the complete clutch side needs removed and inspected.
the small GS's don't break baskets like the 1000/1100/1150's.
if the pan debris looks like "soft" material then i wouldn't worry to much.
it seems like your 1150 engine had basket and starter clutch debris? hard parts for sure and can cause a lot of damage.
the smaller GS engines don't seem to be as destructive.
inspect/clean it out/replace with a good used assembly.