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    Clutch not disengaging all the way

    Bike: 85 GS1150 E, 6 Barnett racing springs in the clutch.

    Bill (Chef1366) installed the clutch on my bike, everything was good. Now the clutch isn't disengaging all the way, and it's getting progressively worse. I can't shift from 3rd to 2nd and 2nd to 1st without really jamming on the shifter, and when the bike is on and in 1st with the clutch pulled in, it creeps forward, to the point that I have to keep on the brakes. And it's getting worse. I've swapped clutch cables, adjusted it super tight, loose, etc. Nothin'. Any ideas, anyone? I'd rather fix it myself than take it to a shop, and Bill is incognito. Any help would be most appreciated.

    -x01660
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    Drag can be caused by various factors including:

    Misadjustment, including cable not tight enough

    Clutch basket notched up thus causing the plates to bind in the basket

    Clutch plates warped

    Some aftermarket clutch friction materials are grabby

    There may be other causes, but these are just a few off the top of my head. Not sure what's going on with your particular bike but it seems you eliminated the adjustment concern.
    Ed

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      #3
      6 Barnett's are 3 to many.
      why not talk to Bill???

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        #4
        Bill's slammed. I just got a hold of him. I'll see if he can help. But your opinions are much appreciated. Thank you.

        -x01660

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          #5
          I had 6 Barnett springs in my 750 clutch, if all the other componets of the clutch are in good order, it will disengage. You'll just have a very very stiff clutch. Sounds you have other problems then the springs. Oh, I replaced my Barnett springs with EBC HD springs, much muuuuch better now. A little stiffer then stock though no where near as bad as the Barnett's.
          sigpicMrBill Been a GSR member on and off since April 2002
          1980 GS 750E Bought new in Feb of 1980
          2015 CAN AM RTS


          Stuff I've done to my bike:dancing: 1100E front end with new Sonic springs, 1100E swing arm conversion with new Progressive shocks installed, 530 sprockets/chain conversion, new SS brake lines, new brake pads. New SS fasteners through out. Rebuilt carbs, new EBC clutch springs and horn installed. New paint. Motor runs strong.

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            #6
            With all six Barnett springs in it's possible that you've stretched the clutch cable a little and it needs to be readjusted. May also be the clutch lever pivot has warn more due to the higher pull pressure. I'd pop out three of the springs and replace them with OEM springs. Will make clutch lever easier to pull and put less strain on the cable assembly. Would also be a good time to inspect your clutch basket for indentations that are causing the clutch plates to hang up.
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            JTGS850GL aka Julius

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              #7
              Originally posted by Nessism View Post
              Drag can be caused by various factors including:

              Clutch basket notched up thus causing the plates to bind in the basket ...
              Originally posted by JTGS850GL View Post
              . Would also be a good time to inspect your clutch basket for indentations that are causing the clutch plates to hang up.
              Do you detect a theme here?

              Here is what you need to check for:



              Those areas inside the yellow should be perfectly SMOOTH. It's possible that your clutch plates are riding in the notches, and when you pull the lever, they stay in the notches and can not move apart.

              .
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                #8
                It's been fixed! Turns out the (excuse me for the improper terminology) bearings on that rod that sticks out of the clutch basket (sits on top of the nut in the picture above, and connects to the clutch mechanism. What the clutch pulls on) were shot, and it had worn into the cover. Bill fixed it up. I'm good to go. Thanks for all the help!


                -x01660

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