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    #16
    I misinterpreted your problem thinking it was a problem with where the arrow was on the intake cam, sorry about that. If the exhaust marks aren't lining up then you most likely have to retime them. lf you have to maybe by removing the chain tensioner and maybe one sprocket you'll have enough wiggle room to move things around. Good luck with it.
    '84 GS750EF (Oct 2015 BOM) '79 GS1000N (June 2007 BOM) My Flickr site http://www.flickr.com/photos/soates50/
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      #17
      Originally posted by chef1366 View Post
      I want to see the end of the cams
      no notches in the pictures...

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        #18
        The notches are off, inward or outward when on the fixed timing mark. Don't know how I did that with the factory manual sitting right next to me. I'll pull them and report back. I did find an older picture I had showing the exhaust cam #1 arrow pointing flush with the case, but the arrow was pointing straight through a side plate.
        GS\'s since 1982: 55OMZ, 550ES, 750ET, (2) 1100ET\'s, 1100S, 1150ES. Current ride is an 83 Katana. Wifes bike is an 84 GS 1150ES

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          #19
          One tooth off on each sprocket. The arrow even points between plates like they show on 3-68.

          One weird discrepancy is the illustration in the manual shows 5 side plates between #1 on the exhaust cam and #2, when there's only 4 side plates. Haven't fired it up yet.
          GS\'s since 1982: 55OMZ, 550ES, 750ET, (2) 1100ET\'s, 1100S, 1150ES. Current ride is an 83 Katana. Wifes bike is an 84 GS 1150ES

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            #20
            Bit behind the times on this one but I just did it myself and had some fun.

            One thing I found is that if you pull up the front cam chain guide, it allows enough slack (with the cam chain tensioner removed) to allow you to slip the chain off the cam chain sprocket and move it along a link or two.

            My problem was that I got it all lined up at the top but the T mark was way off on the crankshaft end.

            All of these need to line up:















            And I finally managed to get 20 pins between the 2/3 markers. I never ended up with the no.1 arrow pointing to a gap between 2 chain links. My no. 1 points to the middle of a chain link. I'm guessing that the line drawing in the post above is not entirely accurate, as it would be impossible to have the no. 1 pointing between 2 links and the exhaust cam 2/3 mark pointing at a chain pin.

            Or have I cocked it up somewhere a long the line?

            Greetings
            Richard
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              #21
              Perfect!
              .....................
              1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
              1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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                #22
                Yes, I'm stoked to have back on the road. It's got about 450 miles on it now. Motor feels strong, laughing to myself about the old school grunt this thing has.

                London, I somehow after my mistake, got the arrow to point in between side plates. I think I was paying to much attention to the picture in the manual regarding pin orientation. Maybe if the crank is rotated 360 with cams out and tension on the cam chain the #1 arrow might point in between side plates?
                GS\'s since 1982: 55OMZ, 550ES, 750ET, (2) 1100ET\'s, 1100S, 1150ES. Current ride is an 83 Katana. Wifes bike is an 84 GS 1150ES

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                  #23
                  Carter - But the distance between the marker arrow no. 1 and the exhaust marker arrow 2/3 will never change. In my book that would make it impossible to replicate the drawing in the post above.

                  I have a spare exhaust cam and a cam chain and it has to be impossible to match the drawing as you say in reality there are only 4 chain plates between the markers not 5 as shown in the illustration:





                  Greetings
                  Last edited by londonboards; 03-02-2015, 10:05 AM.
                  Richard
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                  GS1150 EF bought Jun 2015
                  GS1150 ES bought Mar 2014: ES Makeover Thread AND blog: Go to the Blog
                  GS1100 G (2) bought Aug 2013: Road Runner Project Thread AND blog: Go to the Blog
                  GS1100 G (1) Dad bought new 1985 (in rebuild) see: Dad's GS1100 G Rebuild AND blog: Go to the Blog
                  Previously owned: Suzuki GS750 EF (Canada), Suzuki GS750 (UK)(Avatar circa 1977), Yamaha XT500, Suzuki T500, Honda XL125, Garelli 50
                  Join the United Kingdom (UK) Suzuki GS Facebook Group here

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                    #24
                    London, I was refering to your #20 post picture 4 of the cam chain pointing through a side plate. One rotation of the crank change where the arrow points?
                    GS\'s since 1982: 55OMZ, 550ES, 750ET, (2) 1100ET\'s, 1100S, 1150ES. Current ride is an 83 Katana. Wifes bike is an 84 GS 1150ES

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Carter Turk View Post
                      London, I was refering to your #20 post picture 4 of the cam chain pointing through a side plate. One rotation of the crank change where the arrow points?
                      I looked closely at the picture and it is actually slightly wrong and is really a poor representation. If you count the sprocket teeth (not links or pins) in the diagram between the #1 arrow and the #3 arrow you'll see there are 9 teeth where in actual fact there are 8 teeth.
                      '84 GS750EF (Oct 2015 BOM) '79 GS1000N (June 2007 BOM) My Flickr site http://www.flickr.com/photos/soates50/
                      https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4306/35860327946_08fdd555ac_z.jpg

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                        #26
                        arrow points towards pins...picture is wrong or lost clarity during printing.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by blowerbike View Post
                          arrow points towards pins...picture is wrong or lost clarity during printing.
                          Well, mine points between side plates now. Like the "bubble" they emphasize on 3-68.
                          GS\'s since 1982: 55OMZ, 550ES, 750ET, (2) 1100ET\'s, 1100S, 1150ES. Current ride is an 83 Katana. Wifes bike is an 84 GS 1150ES

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