1983 GS1100E - Starter Clutch Needs Love. Guidance?

[Joe H]

uneven idle and starter clutch is related

Explain please….. Or are you being rhetorical

In the Video it just sounds like it needs a good carb balancing and tune up to me…. and if I read the OP comments right, he has an unknown with the battery, an old battery has been the cause of many problems with my GS.

[blowerbike]

hi joe!
as with anything that runs rough/herks-jerks at idle.. this will make parts like the starter clutch rattle/try to engage a little.
you are right...carb balance/fouled plug(s) air leaks ect..

[Joe H]

Well seeing there are hundreds of threads and responses on starter clutches I decided to pick this one to hijack, it has some of the info I was looking for and has brought up a question I have!
I will ask for forgiveness later

I will now be doing my starter clutch on my 1150, went for a ride yesterday and it almost would not restart just a series of the nasty clunks even with the ignition modded as per instructions it was doing it, so there is a problem!

So as for putting the clutch and rotor back on you are suggesting red lock tight on the taper?? I was always under the impression that dry fitting tapers was the best way to go. I don't want to start a debate (i worry about that) I just want advice from guys who know and have done it.

Two more questions I have;
Why does it do it only when its hot?? I know motors have a harder time turning over hot..but why? What are the physics behind it?
And has anyone used a super starter from Cashio, would that help once the clutch is fixed to eliminate tis in the future?
This is going to be the third one in thirty years, and yes I beat the snot out of this bike occasionally but don't worry as I get older it happens less and less!

[rapidray]

Joe, Paul Cashio builds a MEAN starter!! You need to weld the starter clutch & be done with it. It is harder to start when hot because everything is expanded & sealed up better. More compression hot than cold. Do you have a mechanical advancer? Do you have a Dyna 2000 with a start retard?
Call me at 714--356-784 five if you have questions or need help. I have been building these for a LONG time.
Ray.

[JTGS850GL]

I have a 26 gallon and I've gotten stuck on a few. Had to go to a shop and use theirs which are closer to 100. I see a sixty at HF.

More then likely it's not the 26 gallon compressor but the impact gun you're using. I picked up a used Ingersoll Rand 231C a few years back and have had very few instances where I couldn't remove something.

[Joe H]

Joe, Paul Cashio builds a MEAN starter!! You need to weld the starter clutch & be done with it. It is harder to start when hot because everything is expanded & sealed up better. More compression hot than cold. Do you have a mechanical advancer? Do you have a Dyna 2000 with a start retard?
Call me at 714--356-784 five if you have questions or need help. I have been building these for a LONG time.
Ray.

I knew the starter clutch was bad last year and did the ignition mod hoping to prolong it…..a little help but its getting worse, just need to get it done.
I have a Dyna 2000, that helped a lot, I think the stock iggy box was goofy, a lot of pinging and hard starting, it fried eventually and left me stranded. I have been running the 2000 since. It was a brand new ignition Dyna had just came out with it when I bought it, cannot remember how many years ago that was???

Ray you sent me a pic a while back as to where you weld them so once its off the bike and inspected and such it will be welded.
Then I was thinking the starter could be weak, its 30 yrs old, it spins fine cold but hot …. forget it!
The battery is a AGM and it holds a full charge, so thats not the problem.