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    I'm a bit stupid...

    Hi everyone, thought I would share my tale of woe with you (not for any sympathy, I don't deserve it, but there is a legitimate question at the end).

    The 550en I bought last year was actually in the reassembly phase, having removed the engine, dismantled, cleaned, replaced piston rings, checked valve clearances etc etc, I had put the engine back in the frame and done a lot more since in getting the bike back together.
    I had the forks and swing-arm back in place, the wheels on, rear brakes sorted and so on, when I discovered something I had forgotten to do that made me think I might have to pull it all off to lay the bike down to take the engine out again (luckily I didn't have to in the end).

    I was going through some parts when I found that I had two of the front cam chain guides (the long one with a slight bend to it) when I should only have one, with the other sitting happily where it is supposed to be in the engine. I had bought a good second hand one off eBay as the one I removed was looking really worn, so that's why I had two. So, despite sitting there with the service manual (downloaded from here), the clymer manual, and a printout of the parts fiche, I still managed to not realise what I had done when zipping the engine up. It was a hell of a job reinstalling the cams the first time, as each time I would tighten down the cam caps, another 1-2 threads would strip (after I found 6 had stripped the very first time I tried putting them on). I actually helicoiled all but 1 of the 16. It was a very time consuming and frustrating job to say the least.

    So last night I removed the cam cover and got to work removing the cams, the tensioner etc and putting in the guide. It was a relatively easy job, and you guessed it, I had to helicoil that last bolt hole (which was pretty difficult with the frame in the way). Anyway, it is all done now, just have to wait for a gasket to replace the one that tore when I took the cover off. Luckily I have plenty to keep me occupied in the meantime with this bike!!!

    My question is though, how much damage (if any) could I have done to this bike if I had run it without that guide in place?

    despite the frustrations I have really enjoyed working on this bike, all the components seem to me to have designed with a lot of common sense when assembling them, though I am sure there are plenty with more experience who would disagree with me.

    take care everyone, you are an invaluable resource for rookies like myself as I find myself frequently searching through here looking for answers to problems.

    Yoss

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    Surely you are not just using the bolts to pull the cams down against the valve springs?


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      Something sounds wrong. Were the threads stripping before you reached the torque or were you having to exceed the torque to pull the caps down and then stripping ? If the former maybe someone overtightened them in the past ? Were you pulling them down symmetrically in stages like 1/4 turn each in rotation. If not you could have ended up with the cam binding on one of the bearings.
      I have seen a few Honda twins with manual tensioners at the front of the block where the tensioner pad disappeared and the bike looked to have run for quite a long time and the chain milled a 1/2" deep slot on the inside of the block. How the chain didn't jump teeth I don't know.
      The cam cover gasket will separate more easily if you coat it with grease at assembly. I generally get three visits before my luck runs out.
      Last edited by Brendan W; 01-08-2016, 06:47 AM.
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