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    #16
    Well that is not great news as I did exactly that, turned the crank while removing all the shims. I can be a bit of an idiot sometimes... clearly. I won't be turning the crank to examin the cams for damage when I go to work in the garage nest time. 2 of the 2.70 shims had an "x" after the number and I thought that it was because they were newer or older shims so I didn't give it much thought. I'm now going "Oh *$&%, what have I done now?" My lack of experiance with carberetta engines is really kicking my butt here.

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      #17
      This is why you guys need to stop telling every new guy to adjust his valves.

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        #18
        Originally posted by DohcBikes View Post
        This is why you guys need to stop telling every new guy to adjust his valves.
        You would rather have them burn the valves and destroy the engine?

        I have been noticing many of your posts lately, and am not really impressed with the quality of your suggestions.

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        hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
        #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
        #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
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        Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
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          #19
          What was the compression on each cylinder?

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            #20
            Say what? You didnt even ask?

            Did you know that roughly 99% of inexperienced people will get incorrect clearance readings?

            How many miles does it have? Did anyone ask? Pardon if i missed it.

            No real mechanic makes suggestions without asking the right questions.

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              #21
              Originally posted by DohcBikes View Post
              This is why you guys need to stop telling every new guy to adjust his valves.
              I can tell that you are relatively new here. Standard practice is to clean the carbs, adjust the valves and clean/check the electrical connections.

              Then, once the engine is running properly, check the suspension, tyres and brakes.

              THEN you finally get a chance to ride your 'new' bike.

              If someone does not know how to do something, he should ask. If not verbally, at least do some searching via Google or other search methods, but there is a LOT of information on how to work on these bikes, especially on this site. A link to BassCliff's site (our library) is usually helpful, too.

              I have noticed some of your posts lately, too, and find too much information in them that is either useless or just plain wrong.

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                #22
                Theres no need to even pull the valve cover if compression is good.

                Rode and tuned my first gs a long long time ago. This site isnt the final word.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by DohcBikes View Post
                  What was the compression on each cylinder?

                  Say what? You didnt even ask?

                  Did you know that roughly 99% of inexperienced people will get incorrect clearance readings?

                  How many miles does it have? Did anyone ask? Pardon if i missed it.

                  No real mechanic makes suggestions without asking the right questions.
                  Well, since very few of us are REAL mechanics, we might tend to forget to ask redundant questions.

                  Compression numbers might make some people feel good, but I have worked on many "new" bikes over the last 20 years or so and have never gotten a compression reading on any of them. The only compression gauge I have will not work on a 4-cyinder bike engine, so I don't even bother with it.

                  As to how many miles on his bike? NONE. That's right, NONE.
                  Look in his signature, he got the bike with just over 72,000 KILOMETERS.

                  As to those 99% of inexperienced people getting incorrect readings: many of them will post there findings here, because they might have seen the suggestion to adjust their valves. When we ask how they did the procedure, we tend to then educate them, just in case they did not bother to read the service manual first.

                  That is much better than simply not telling them to do the work.
                  I ride many bikes.
                  Some are even Suzukis. :D

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by DohcBikes View Post
                    Theres no need to even pull the valve cover if compression is good.
                    I will thank you to stay away from my bikes, then. The valves can still be closing and give good compression numbers, but be out of spec for clearance. Run them tight for too long, you will be burning valves, but you won't know unless you PULL THE VALVE COVER and check the clearances.
                    I ride many bikes.
                    Some are even Suzukis. :D

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                      #25
                      ^False....

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                        #26
                        Which part?

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                        sigpic
                        mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                        hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                        #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                        #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                        Family Portrait
                        Siblings and Spouses
                        Mom's first ride
                        Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                        (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by DohcBikes View Post
                          This is why you guys need to stop telling every new guy to adjust his valves.
                          Idiot troll.
                          In fact, you're going in my Bozo Bin. Enjoy the company in there.
                          Last edited by Grimly; 11-24-2016, 11:50 PM.
                          ---- Dave

                          Only a dog knows why a motorcyclist sticks his head out of a car window

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                            #28
                            Back to the issue at hand, he's got buggered cam's now?
                            #1: 1979 GS 550 EC "Red" – Very first Bike / Overhaul thread        New here? ☛ Read the Top 10 Newbie mistakes thread
                            #2: 1978 GS 550 EC "Blue" – Can't make it a donor / "Rebuild" thread     Manuals (and much more): See Cliff's homepage here
                            #3: 2014 Moto Guzzi V7 II Racer – One needs a runner while wrenching
                            #4: 1980 Moto Guzzi V65C – Something to chill

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                              #29
                              Thorsghost 13. I am just up or down the road from you in Ottawa. Rebuilt an 81 -850 before joining this site. Bike had not run for 20 some years. I do have some extra parts from some boxes of parts that I bought while rebuilding mine. You are welcome to come and scrounge for anything you need for yours. I also have a sonic cleaner and you are welcome to come over and spend a few hours going through the carbs. One thing to say here about the money invested. Over time you will find out that the money invested is way down the list. What you will gain through the experience of wrenching on your bike is way beyond monetary value.While working on mine, I constantly marveled at the precise engineering involved in making these machines. You have come to the right place for advise. Everything I needed to know about putting it all together I found here or on Basscliffs site.

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                                #30
                                Yes the advice here lead you to pulling every shim in your engine. Very pertinent and concise.

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