PROBLEM: New GS1000 standard rings - too big?

[howardshane2]

You may want to send an email to those guys referencing this thread so they know there may be a return coming, but maybe more importantly, if they know if that P/N is "known good".

It seems that this would be a pretty big "oops" if the same P/N is available on every Suzuki parts website and they're all 1.0mm OS instead of standard!

I am am going to give them a call in the morning and see what they say. I have always had good customer service with mrcycles

[wottenad]

They are definitely over sized. I punched in the part number on partsoutlaw.com and it shows this as a set for the GS450.

http://www.partsoutlaw.com/oemparts/partsearch/suzuki_motorcycle

It shows part number 12140-49001 for the '79 GS1000L.
http://www.partsoutlaw.com/oemparts/...917/crankshaft

So here's the crazy thing: I went to the link at "partsoutlaw.com" and the list calls the 12140-49001 as the STD ring and the 12140-44110 as the 1.0mm OS:

49001-1.JPG

But when you follow the link for the 12140-49001, this is what you see:

PISTON RING SET (OS:1.0)

12140-49001

When I check PARTZILLA for the same P/N:

12140-49001 PISTON RING SETDescription

Purchase this Suzuki 12140-49001 PISTON RING SET --- PISTON RING SET, PISTON RING SET (STD), PISTON RING SET (OS:1.0), PISTON RING SET (05:1.0)

SUZUKIPARTSHOUSE has the same thing: the same P/N is 1.0mm OS!

What the hell? Is there no P/N for a STD size ring for a GS1000 or does every website have a different combination of errors?

I am so confused...

Are there any Suzuki parts guys here that can maybe clear this up?

[Nessism]

Obviously, 12140-44110 is the 1.0 OS rings.

That leaves 12140-49001 as the STD rings.

[greg78gs750]

fwiw, i have found a mistake on the suzuki fische before....

[howardshane2]

So here's the crazy thing: I went to the link at "partsoutlaw.com" and the list calls the 12140-49001 as the STD ring and the 12140-44110 as the 1.0mm OS:

[ATTACH=CONFIG]49764[/ATTACH]

But when you follow the link for the 12140-49001, this is what you see:

PISTON RING SET (OS:1.0)

12140-49001

When I check PARTZILLA for the same P/N:

12140-49001 PISTON RING SETDescription

Purchase this Suzuki 12140-49001 PISTON RING SET --- PISTON RING SET, PISTON RING SET (STD), PISTON RING SET (OS:1.0), PISTON RING SET (05:1.0)

SUZUKIPARTSHOUSE has the same thing: the same P/N is 1.0mm OS!

What the hell? Is there no P/N for a STD size ring for a GS1000 or does every website have a different combination of errors?

I am so confused...

Are there any Suzuki parts guys here that can maybe clear this up?

So I just got off the phone with mrcycles and they told me the 49001 was not even available and that the ones I ordered are standard size rings. I let them know that I think that it is a mistake and will be returning the rings after I verify the size. On partsoutlaw can you order the standard size or does it take you straight to the oversized part number?

[JTGS850GL]

Here a link to the std rings set on partsoutlaw:

http://www.partsoutlaw.com/oemparts/p/suzuki/12140-49001/piston-ring-set-std

Remember to use the promo code BANG to get $1 shipping.

[bobgroger]

Here a link to the std rings set on partsoutlaw:

http://www.partsoutlaw.com/oemparts/p/suzuki/12140-49001/piston-ring-set-std

Remember to use the promo code BANG to get $1 shipping.

But that link says OS:1.0. I don't think anything has been cleared up here. According to the diagram the STD has nothing after the part number, the .5 has -050, the 100 supposedly has a different number to supersede the original with -100
Here are some aftermarket ones http://www.ebay.com/itm/CLASSIC-SUZU...-/162163907291

[Sandy]

Check the AlphaSports website. I just looked and they show the standard ring 12140-49001 as being available as well as the 12140-49001-100. The price is different for each set and the -100 PN does sub to the part that the OP received so maybe they are available. Pretty messed situation for sure. Funny just checked Babbit's and it comes up with the exact same screens as PartsOutlaw. Did one buy out the other, did they merge or are they just using the same flawed software.

[Nessism]

But that link says OS:1.0. I don't think anything has been cleared up here. According to the diagram the STD has nothing after the part number, the .5 has -050, the 100 supposedly has a different number to supersede the original with -100
Here are some aftermarket ones http://www.ebay.com/itm/CLASSIC-SUZU...-/162163907291

The description is meaningless since that same part number is used for more than one model. STD size rings for one model can be OS for a different model.

PN 12140-49001 is correct for STD rings for the GS1000.

[limeex2]

Here's one from Cheap cycle parts. Same issue. http://www.cheapcycleparts.com/oempa...n-ring-set-std Here's a link from Ron Ayers. http://www.ronayers.com/oemparts/p/s...n-ring-set-std. I checked other 79 models all super-cede to that p/n. This is a Suzuki problem, not the dealer. Has Suzuki stopped supplying std. rings? They may only offer them in O.S. because of age. The dealer will need to contact Suzuki.

[wottenad]

Partzilla has sent a return label and will ship another set of rings - I asked about the P/N of the new set and they gave me the same number as the original: 12140-44110(!)

I guess we'll see if the original P/N was actually mis-packed or if Partzilla is making the same mistake twice - stay tuned!

BTW: the "BANG" code just worked for $1.50 shipping on my order from PartsOutlaw.com - thanks for posting that!

[wottenad]

Partzilla has sent a return label and will ship another set of rings - I asked about the P/N of the new set and they gave me the same number as the original: 12140-44110(!)

I guess we'll see if the original P/N was actually mis-packed or if Partzilla is making the same mistake twice - stay tuned!

BTW: the "BANG" code just worked for $1.50 shipping on my order from PartsOutlaw.com - thanks for posting that!

UPDATE: Called PartsOutlaw and talked to Kelly, who was very helpful about drilling through the misinformation on their website - turns out the 12140-49001 IS the correct P/N for standard rings as others have said (and it is in stock at Suzuki BTW), but the description of this P/N is wrong on the PartsOutlaw website as well as every other website that shows this part!

It is described as STD in the part listing (fiche view), but when you click the link to view the part description, it shows as 1.0 OS. It looks like they all subscribe to the same database and all of them have the same error!

So, to put this to rest - if you need STD rings for a GS1000, order the 12140-49001. If you need 1.0 OS, order the 12140-44110!

[Nessism]

Alpha Sport has the best parts fishe...http://www.alpha-sports.com/suzuki_parts.htm

They list 12140-49001 as STD and 12140-49001-100 as 1.0 OS.

When you click on 12140-49001-100 they show it's been superseded by 12140-44110

[duaneage]

I just got burned by this as well. Now I have to get bike bandit to take back a 38 dollar set of rings I opened and discovered they are for 1.0 oversize.

I'll be able to return the other 3 sets at least