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    Blew out a spark plug. Options?

    Was pulling away from a stop sign on the old GS1000 and heard a loud POP followed by the sound of compressed air. Crap. Looked down and saw the #3 spark plug hanging down by the side of the engine.

    Tried to thread back in but won't tighten down.

    So I'm guessing my options are basically replace the head or helicoil/thread repair kit. Is there enough room between the spark plug hole and valves for such a repair?


    #2
    Call me...I have youre answer and youll be done in an hour. I will PM you number
    MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
    1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

    NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


    I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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      #3
      There are a few different methods to fix stripped threads like that. I'm not sure which is best exactly but a Timesert would be in contention.
      Ed

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        #4
        A Helicoil product and i have run my maroon 1000C for at least 5 years now with one in and not one problem. Got mine at NAPA and NAPA sells the replacement inserts as well. The expense is in getting the initial kit in hand. After that all you need is to buy inserts of needed for other engines.

        MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
        1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

        NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


        I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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          #5
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          I successfully used a kit that had a 14mm tap that turned into a cutter and then a larger tap for the insert.(all one tool) It also contained a punch that expanded the top of the insert to lock it in place plus three inserts of different lengths. I used the longest insert. One bit of advice is to have the piston at bottom dead center of the power stroke. That way the valves are both closed and an air blower can easily blow out the aluminum shavings. If the piston is bottom dead center on the intake stroke, the tap will get hung on the valve and will cause some very nasty language. Good luck!!!
          1978 GS 1000 (pods, V&H 4 to 1, Dyna S, Dyna coils, stage 3 jet kit, Progressive springs, relay mod, 530 chain, Honda regulator, clutch basket welded and shimmed)
          1970 Honda C70

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            #6
            I did this on a Polaris 330 just three weeks ago. The 14mm spark plug kit comes with coils of different depths or reach, so you can find the proper coil.
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              #7
              Originally posted by Gumpster View Post
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              I successfully used a kit that had a 14mm tap that turned into a cutter and then a larger tap for the insert.(all one tool) It also contained a punch that expanded the top of the insert to lock it in place plus three inserts of different lengths. I used the longest insert. One bit of advice is to have the piston at bottom dead center of the power stroke. That way the valves are both closed and an air blower can easily blow out the aluminum shavings. If the piston is bottom dead center on the intake stroke, the tap will get hung on the valve and will cause some very nasty language. Good luck!!!
              If you apply bearing grease in the flutes, it catches the debris.
              :cool:GSRick
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              Eric Bang RIP 9/5/2018
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                #8
                Even before tapping is there a chance there is already some debris in the top-end from the blow-out?
                2@ \'78 GS1000

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                  #9
                  Grease will catch "some" of the chips but not a 100% guarantee. I use a piece of 1/2 inch ID tubing and stick it into the hose of my shop vac and seal it with duct tape. Youre making a small suction tube much like when the dentist is suctioning spit and chips up when doing dental work.

                  Use suction alongside the tap as you go and it will suck up a great number of chips. Once the tap is through theres a nice hole to stick the suction tube down to the piston. Dance the tube around the top of the piston and around the barrel walls and suck anything loose up that way.

                  Secondly, i use some super high temp red loctite on the insert. If there is grease in the tap threads the loctite wont bond. My Maroon 1000C has been going years with the Save a Thread kit.
                  Last edited by chuck hahn; 02-13-2018, 09:13 AM.
                  MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                  1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                  NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                  I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                    #10
                    Steve..I would suspect any chips from the blowout already got ejected out the hole while it was still running.
                    MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                    1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                    NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                    I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                      #11
                      I've used one of these "Save-a-Thread" kits from Helicoil a few times with great success.


                      They're relatively inexpensive and available at any decent auto parts store.

                      Despite the "Helicoil" brand, these kits use a solid insert -- you do not want to use a regular "spring" style Helicoil insert for a spark plug.
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by chuck hahn View Post
                        Call me...I have youre answer and youll be done in an hour. I will PM you number
                        I hope you're taking him up on this offer!
                        1983 GS850G, Cosmos Blue.
                        2005 KLR685, Aztec Pink - Turd II.3, the ReReReTurdening
                        2015 Yamaha FJ-09, Magma Red Power Corrupts...
                        Eat more venison.

                        Please provide details. The GSR Hive Mind is nearly omniscient, but not yet clairvoyant.

                        Celeriter equita, converteque saepe.

                        SUPPORT THIS SITE! DONATE TODAY!

                        Co-host of "The Riding Obsession" sport-touring motorcycling podcast at tro.bike!

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                          #13
                          Josh did call and I gave him my tips. Havent heard back how it went though.
                          MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                          1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                          NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                          I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                            #14
                            Sorry I sent a text back and didn't think that it could have been a land line or the like.

                            Repair went smoothly but I didn't have a chance to ride the bike since the cure time of the sealant. I used a Spark Plug specific kit that had a solid insert and was also staked into to the new cut threads instead of lock tited in. It easily took a properly torqued spark plug.

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                              #15
                              Pics and name of the kit for others to reference please.
                              MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                              1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                              NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                              I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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