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    GS550 Head Swap Questions

    Missed a shift last night that led to a pretty good over rev. Managed to spit and sputter home, and now today she won't run. 0 compression on cyls 2&3, and pretty low on 1. My bore scope showed definite exhaust valve contact across all 4:



    I picked up a loaded head, NOS head gasket, and a cam chain tensioner gasket because mine is leaking. Anything else I should pick up? Tips, tricks, mods, advice for while I'm in there?
    Last edited by Guest; 05-12-2018, 04:58 PM. Reason: Bad image link

    #2
    Plan on replacing the base gasket while you're in there.
    1980 GS550ET

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      #3
      Originally posted by steveb922 View Post
      Plan on replacing the base gasket while you're in there.
      I really didn't want to take the jugs off. Is that necessary? If I have to go that far I'm gonna end up doing way more down time than I can afford at the moment.

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        #4
        You will disturb the base gasket when you pull the head no matter how careful you are so yes, it is very necessary unless you are willing to have some good leaks
        Cowboy Up or Quit. - Run Free Lou and Rest in Peace

        1981 GS550T - My First
        1981 GS550L - My Eldest Daughter's - Now Sold
        2007 GSF1250SA Bandit - My touring bike

        Sit tall in the saddle Hold your head up high
        Keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky and live like you ain't afraid to die
        and don't be scared, just enjoy your ride - Chris Ledoux, "The Ride"

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          #5
          Then I might as well do pistons and rings while I'm in there...

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            #6
            Your pistons should still be in good shape but rings wouldn't be a bad idea
            Cowboy Up or Quit. - Run Free Lou and Rest in Peace

            1981 GS550T - My First
            1981 GS550L - My Eldest Daughter's - Now Sold
            2007 GSF1250SA Bandit - My touring bike

            Sit tall in the saddle Hold your head up high
            Keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky and live like you ain't afraid to die
            and don't be scared, just enjoy your ride - Chris Ledoux, "The Ride"

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              #7
              That picture shows a pretty good impact on the piston. I'm not so sure that I would run them in <my> bike.

              And yes, if you don't replace the base gasket now, you will do it in another two weeks, along with all the other gaskets (again).

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              #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
              #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
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                #8
                Thanks Steve, you have a better eye than I do as I didn't really think there was anything there.
                Cowboy Up or Quit. - Run Free Lou and Rest in Peace

                1981 GS550T - My First
                1981 GS550L - My Eldest Daughter's - Now Sold
                2007 GSF1250SA Bandit - My touring bike

                Sit tall in the saddle Hold your head up high
                Keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky and live like you ain't afraid to die
                and don't be scared, just enjoy your ride - Chris Ledoux, "The Ride"

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                  #9
                  Alright, so my parts ordered list has expanded to include a base gasket and O-rings, piston rings, and everything to rebuild the tensioner while it's off. I'm gonna hold off on pistons, hopefully I can polish down the high spots to avoid any heat risers, but if they're too bad I'll try to find a set.

                  Thanks for the help!

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                    #10
                    It's not the high spots and heat risers I would worry about.

                    The impact might have induced a stress fracture that will develop with elevated temperature.

                    For some reason, the cracks never seem to weld themselves together when the temperature goes up.

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                    sigpic
                    mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                    hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                    #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                    #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                    Family Portrait
                    Siblings and Spouses
                    Mom's first ride
                    Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                    (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                      #11
                      The pistons will be okay. Just inspect them for cracks when you pull them out.

                      Be sure to remove the valves from your new head and inspect everything. Lap valves as necessary and replace the valve stem seals. Viton seals are best, aftermarket, but most aftermarket gaskets are crap. Best to stay OEM for those.
                      Ed

                      To measure is to know.

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                      KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Steve View Post
                        It's not the high spots and heat risers I would worry about.

                        The impact might have induced a stress fracture that will develop with elevated temperature.

                        For some reason, the cracks never seem to weld themselves together when the temperature goes up.

                        .
                        That's what dye-pen is for.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Nessism View Post
                          The pistons will be okay. Just inspect them for cracks when you pull them out.

                          Be sure to remove the valves from your new head and inspect everything. Lap valves as necessary and replace the valve stem seals. Viton seals are best, aftermarket, but most aftermarket gaskets are crap. Best to stay OEM for those.
                          I didn't consider valve seals, now would for sure be a good time. Thanks for the reminder!

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                            #14
                            Why do you need to replace the head? I guess the piston to valve contact destroyed the valves guides and head?
                            Jordan

                            1977 Suzuki GS750 (My first bike)
                            2000 Kawasaki ZRX1100
                            1973 BMW R75/5

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by hannibal View Post
                              Why do you need to replace the head? I guess the piston to valve contact destroyed the valves guides and head?
                              Mine has some questionable crack repairs in it, and it was much cheaper to buy a serviceable head than just valves, plus it came with spare covers, cams, buckets, shims, etc. I'll use whatever's in the best shape from both.

                              Everything looks very good in the spare, and if it specs out I'll just be able to replace it as a loaded assembly to save some time and aggravation.
                              Last edited by Guest; 05-20-2018, 09:47 AM.

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