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    Setting Ignition Points Help?

    Long story short, I tried setting my ignition points today (I thought I knew what I was doing) turned out I didn't.

    Can someone help me out and explain to me how to set points properly? I only touched the 1-4 side and it is now closing at 2-3 F. I've tried messing around with it and I've gotten no where.

    Any help is appreciated. Thanks!

    #2
    But where are they breaking ? If they break at the right place and the gap is close to correct, it'll run.
    Past that, if you want to get really into it, check the dwell figure against the specs.

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      #3
      Greg T, while I admire the breadth of your knowledge, do you really think an owner who works on his bike without a manual even knows what dwell is?

      SB3, you've been here?

      https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ers-CLICK-HERE!!

      Read all of the links, especially the one to the Basscliff site. Bookmark it, and then download the factory service manual for your bike

      Then, if you don't know how old your points and condensors are, replace them. Better yet, replace them with a Dyna S and forget about points forever
      1978 GS 1000 (since new)
      1979 GS 1000 (The Fridge, superbike replica project)
      1978 GS 1000 (parts)
      1981 GS 850 (anyone want a project?)
      1981 GPZ 550 (backroad screamer)
      1970 450 Mk IIID (THUMP!)
      2007 DRz 400S
      1999 ATK 490ES
      1994 DR 350SES

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        #4
        Originally posted by Big T View Post
        Greg T, while I admire the breadth of your knowledge, do you really think an owner who works on his bike without a manual even knows what dwell is?

        SB3, you've been here?

        https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ers-CLICK-HERE!!

        Read all of the links, especially the one to the Basscliff site. Bookmark it, and then download the factory service manual for your bike

        Then, if you don't know how old your points and condensors are, replace them. Better yet, replace them with a Dyna S and forget about points forever
        I agree completely with the recommendation of a Dyna S. And amusingly, while I have had the equipment to measure dwell on a running motor sitting here for years, I've never used it. Never needed to.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Big T View Post
          Greg T, while I admire the breadth of your knowledge, do you really think an owner who works on his bike without a manual even knows what dwell is?

          SB3, you've been here?

          https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ers-CLICK-HERE!!

          Read all of the links, especially the one to the Basscliff site. Bookmark it, and then download the factory service manual for your bike

          Then, if you don't know how old your points and condensors are, replace them. Better yet, replace them with a Dyna S and forget about points forever
          Greg,

          Thanks for the info, I bought the bike with a brand new set of points and condensers and I really don't have the funds to get a Dyna S right now... so I'm trying to work with what I got here lol

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            #6
            It's always a mistake to ask a valid question in forums. He wasn't asking about a dyna s, he was asking how to set points. And a dwell meter to solve a gap problem is absurd, when the guy merely wants the step by step tutorial! Years ago when I first joined the forums the answers were more direct, less critical. Clearly the old crew is either gone, or crankier than ever! I just revisited BassCliff's site, myself, and downloaded (again) the manual, and again found myself utterly unimpressed with the instructions on setting the points. It begins (ahem) step 1: set gap to .3 (or whatever, it's not in front of me atm). Full stop. No reference as to which set of cylinders to rotate to where...I came here to ask for clarification, or a simple step by step...(ie: step 1, remove cover; step 2, remove plugs; step 3, rotate engine to...???; step 4, set gaps for 1-4 to .3; etc. Instead all I got was this thread! LOL, I'll keep looking, or hope for an actual response to this question. Of course I'll just get a bunch of buy this electronic iognition and be done with it....OK, but read the question, smart guys, and help your brothers out!

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              #7
              LOL, like this, buried in cliffy's pages:

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                #8
                Originally posted by BigVoxjammer View Post
                LOL, like this, buried in cliffy's pages:
                Quite so. The answers are usually on here if you search. I still stand by my first answer - Where are they breaking ?
                No one needed to know where they closed.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by SB3 View Post
                  Greg,

                  Thanks for the info, I bought the bike with a brand new set of points and condensers and I really don't have the funds to get a Dyna S right now... so I'm trying to work with what I got here lol
                  Have you followed the procedure, and solved your issue?
                  1978 GS 1000 (since new)
                  1979 GS 1000 (The Fridge, superbike replica project)
                  1978 GS 1000 (parts)
                  1981 GS 850 (anyone want a project?)
                  1981 GPZ 550 (backroad screamer)
                  1970 450 Mk IIID (THUMP!)
                  2007 DRz 400S
                  1999 ATK 490ES
                  1994 DR 350SES

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                    #10
                    Let's start by explaining how points work... The plugs fire when the points open, not when they close. That's why GregT keeps asking when they break and suggesting when they close is irrelevant.

                    Remove the ignition cover and follow the instructions on page 69 on the manual.

                    As for the Dyna S recommendations, I know an electronic ignition is better, but I replaced my points and set them when I got the bike. I haven't touched them since so I don't see points as being a big hassle.
                    Last edited by hannibal; 06-05-2019, 04:56 PM. Reason: English is hard
                    Jordan

                    1977 Suzuki GS750 (My first bike)
                    2000 Kawasaki ZRX1100
                    1973 BMW R75/5

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by hannibal View Post
                      Let's start by explaining how points work... The plugs fire when the points open, not when they close. That's why GregT keeps asking when they break and suggesting when they close is irrelevant.

                      Remove the ignition cover and follow the instructions on page 69 on the manual.

                      As for the Dyna S recommendations, I know an electronic ignition is better, but I replaced my points and set them when I got the bike. I have touched them since so I don't see points as being a big hassle.
                      ??? From everything I've collected I thought that when the points are in contact at the F mark that orders the spark plugs to spark?... So should the points be open at the F mark? I am officially confused now.

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                        #12
                        The points start opening at F.

                        If you're using a static light, it should start to glow at F
                        Last edited by Big T; 06-05-2019, 12:22 PM.
                        1978 GS 1000 (since new)
                        1979 GS 1000 (The Fridge, superbike replica project)
                        1978 GS 1000 (parts)
                        1981 GS 850 (anyone want a project?)
                        1981 GPZ 550 (backroad screamer)
                        1970 450 Mk IIID (THUMP!)
                        2007 DRz 400S
                        1999 ATK 490ES
                        1994 DR 350SES

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                          #13
                          I've been using a static light but I guess I've been using it wrong. But when I turn my ignition on to test them I get a spark on my points on 1-4 F and 2-3 F. So is this wrong?

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Big T View Post
                            The points start opening at F.

                            If you're using a static light, it should start to glow at F
                            I've been using a static light but I guess I've been using it wrong. But when I turn my ignition on to test them I get a spark on my points on 1-4 F and 2-3 F. So is this wrong?

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                              #15
                              Well bigvoxjammer I tried to help as he has duplicated his question here https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ng-Points-Help
                              it appears that he has not looked at that thread and continued with the other.
                              Last edited by fastbysuzuki; 06-05-2019, 05:59 PM.
                              The big guy up there rides a Suzuki (this I know)
                              1981 gs850gx

                              1999 RF900
                              past bikes. RF900
                              TL1000s
                              Hayabusa
                              gsx 750f x2
                              197cc Francis Barnett
                              various British nails

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