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    Engine is out, what things do you normally look for?

    So I got the engine out and on the table.
    Going to check the valves this week.
    Will be putting in new plugs and oil change.
    Rebuilding the carbs since I'm adding pods and 4to1 exhaust.

    What other things should I replace while it's easy to get to? Just not familiar with old Suzuki motors, any parts that "normally" get changed when the motor is out?

    Motor has 39k miles and ran very well before I pulled it out. Clutch felt good, pulled strong to redline, no smoke or oil burning, starts easy, electrical has already been upgraded.

    1980 GS1000E
    Last edited by winmag4582001; 08-12-2019, 02:34 AM.
    2016 Ducati 1299s
    1989 BMW K100RS
    1982 GS1100E-current build
    1980 GS1000E-sold
    1982 GS1100L-sold
    1982 CX500-sold

    #2
    Any oil leaks? This would be the time to take care of those. How is the oil consumption? Only if needed, this would also be the time to replace valve stem seals and other gaskets that would require taking the head off. However, if this is not an issue then I wouldn't mess with it until necessary.

    BTW, why do you have the engine out of the frame?

    Just re-read that last line. Nevermind.......
    Larry

    '79 GS 1000E
    '93 Honda ST 1100 SOLD-- now residing in Arizona.
    '18 Triumph Tiger 800 (gone too soon)
    '19 Triumph Tiger 800 Christmas 2018 to me from me.
    '01 BMW R1100RL project purchased from a friend, now for sale.

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      #3
      Originally posted by alke46 View Post
      Any oil leaks? This would be the time to take care of those. How is the oil consumption? Only if needed, this would also be the time to replace valve stem seals and other gaskets that would require taking the head off. However, if this is not an issue then I wouldn't mess with it until necessary.

      BTW, why do you have the engine out of the frame?

      Just re-read that last line. Nevermind.......

      Really the only oil leak is from the valve cover gasket (since it needs changed I was going to check valves.). Head gasket is good. The previous owner said he never checked the valve clearance and he owned it for around 3yrs, putting 8k miles on it. He only upgraded the electrical, did regular oil changes, chain and tires.

      Engine is out because I'm modifying the frame and fully painting the bike.
      Last edited by winmag4582001; 08-11-2019, 11:34 PM.
      2016 Ducati 1299s
      1989 BMW K100RS
      1982 GS1100E-current build
      1980 GS1000E-sold
      1982 GS1100L-sold
      1982 CX500-sold

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        #4
        The cam chain tensioner is real easy to get to now and may be worth the few inexpensive parts to ensure it doesn't cause any leaks in the near future.
        Roger

        '83 GS850G Daily rider
        '82 GS1100GK Work in (slow) progress

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          #5
          Originally posted by Burque73 View Post
          The cam chain tensioner is real easy to get to now and may be worth the few inexpensive parts to ensure it doesn't cause any leaks in the near future.
          Just the gasket or a new tensioner?
          Thanks
          2016 Ducati 1299s
          1989 BMW K100RS
          1982 GS1100E-current build
          1980 GS1000E-sold
          1982 GS1100L-sold
          1982 CX500-sold

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            #6
            Originally posted by winmag4582001 View Post
            Just the gasket or a new tensioner?
            Thanks
            Just the gasket, seal and o-rings. The link in my previous post will take you to a great tutorial.
            Roger

            '83 GS850G Daily rider
            '82 GS1100GK Work in (slow) progress

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              #7
              Rebuild the head.
              1982 GS1100G- road bike
              1990 GSX750F-(1127cc '92 GSXR engine)
              1987 Honda CBR600F Hurricane

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                #8
                But if he rebuilds the head, won't he also have to replace the base gasket? That's why I said if it is not leaking around the base, I would leave it alone.
                Larry

                '79 GS 1000E
                '93 Honda ST 1100 SOLD-- now residing in Arizona.
                '18 Triumph Tiger 800 (gone too soon)
                '19 Triumph Tiger 800 Christmas 2018 to me from me.
                '01 BMW R1100RL project purchased from a friend, now for sale.

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                  #9
                  As I said, it was running very well, just the valve cover gasket is leaking. How often do cam guides and chains wear out?
                  On the CX500 my son bought, the chain and guides are a problem but is a cheap repair. On the Suzuki GS’s, cam chain and guides are crazy expensive.
                  Looks like it won’t be until next week before I get time to open it up. I’ll post some pics. My goal is to have it built by Labor Day.
                  2016 Ducati 1299s
                  1989 BMW K100RS
                  1982 GS1100E-current build
                  1980 GS1000E-sold
                  1982 GS1100L-sold
                  1982 CX500-sold

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by winmag4582001 View Post
                    As I said, it was running very well, just the valve cover gasket is leaking. How often do cam guides and chains wear out?
                    On the CX500 my son bought, the chain and guides are a problem but is a cheap repair.
                    Almost never, unless something goes wrong with the oil feed to the cams or the owner is a ham-fisted monkey who thrashes the bike every time it runs. Cam chains get subjected to accelerative stress like any other component, but in a bike that does lots of cruising miles, they go on forever.
                    I replaced the cam chain in mine simply because it was apart and might as well, kind of thing. I needn't have bothered If I was on a really tight budget, because the old one measured up as being barely worn.
                    ---- Dave

                    Only a dog knows why a motorcyclist sticks his head out of a car window

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Grimly View Post
                      Almost never, unless something goes wrong with the oil feed to the cams or the owner is a ham-fisted monkey who thrashes the bike every time it runs. Cam chains get subjected to accelerative stress like any other component, but in a bike that does lots of cruising miles, they go on forever.
                      I replaced the cam chain in mine simply because it was apart and might as well, kind of thing. I needn't have bothered If I was on a really tight budget, because the old one measured up as being barely worn.
                      Thank you. That’s the kind of info I’m looking for. How often does the valve clearance need to be checked? The previous owner said he never checked them and put around 8k miles on it.
                      2016 Ducati 1299s
                      1989 BMW K100RS
                      1982 GS1100E-current build
                      1980 GS1000E-sold
                      1982 GS1100L-sold
                      1982 CX500-sold

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                        #12
                        You should check them roughly every 4000 miles. If he's never checked them then you'll do well to do so now
                        Cowboy Up or Quit. - Run Free Lou and Rest in Peace

                        1981 GS550T - My First
                        1981 GS550L - My Eldest Daughter's - Now Sold
                        2007 GSF1250SA Bandit - My touring bike

                        Sit tall in the saddle Hold your head up high
                        Keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky and live like you ain't afraid to die
                        and don't be scared, just enjoy your ride - Chris Ledoux, "The Ride"

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                          #13
                          If the bike has been idle for a length of time there could be a sticky layer of sludge on the oil pan/sump plate.
                          It might be a good time to consider dropping that and cleaning it and the oil pump inlet screen.
                          Check all the oil seals and clean the contact area for the main earth/ground strap.
                          Be systematic with the cover screws. There are different lengths so make note of what goes where.
                          97 R1100R
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                          80 GS850G, 79 Z400B, 85 R100RT, 80 Z650D, 76 CB200

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                            #14
                            So I checked valve clearance.... For the most part they were all between .07-.08mm.
                            Except the two intake valves on the center cylinders. One was .13mm, the other .11mm. Both had a 2.60 shim, ordered two 2.65 shims.
                            Any reason as to why the two center intakes are set so wide? Cam lobes look completely fine and spring resistance feels good.
                            Last edited by winmag4582001; 08-25-2019, 09:39 PM.
                            2016 Ducati 1299s
                            1989 BMW K100RS
                            1982 GS1100E-current build
                            1980 GS1000E-sold
                            1982 GS1100L-sold
                            1982 CX500-sold

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                              #15
                              Previous previous owner used the wrong procedure to measure valve clearances.

                              Which method did you use?

                              Cam chain stretch has a spec in the manual. X length over y pins
                              1978 GS 1000 (since new)
                              1979 GS 1000 (The Fridge, superbike replica project)
                              1978 GS 1000 (parts)
                              1981 GS 850 (anyone want a project?)
                              1981 GPZ 550 (backroad screamer)
                              1970 450 Mk IIID (THUMP!)
                              2007 DRz 400S
                              1999 ATK 490ES
                              1994 DR 350SES

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