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    #16
    Originally posted by winmag4582001 View Post
    So I checked valve clearance.... For the most part they were all between .07-.08mm.
    Except the two intake valves on the center cylinders. One was .13mm, the other .11mm. Both had a 2.60 shim, ordered two 2.65 shims.
    Any reason as to why the two center intakes are set so wide? Cam lobes look completely fine and spring resistance feels good.
    Methods include motion pro type tool to depress buckets, and zip tie to hold valves open enabling you to grab the shim. Which method did you use.

    Another consideration is whether you were able to check two valves without rotating the crank, or if you rotated the crank for each valve. The idea there is that the neighboring bucket/ shim would not be pushing up on the cam giving you an incorrect measurement on the one you're checking. Maybe that's confusing, but someone else may chime in with a simpler way to explain it.
    Roger

    '83 GS850G Daily rider
    '82 GS1100GK Work in (slow) progress

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      #17
      The way I checked it:
      Rotate the motor to the proper cam position, checked with feeler gauge, rotate 180’ and checked again. Did that for each valve. Used the little valve compressor tool thing that I borrowed from a friend to remove the disc and document the thickness.
      Just the two center cylinder intakes had a lot of gap. All the others were at the upper end of spec.
      2016 Ducati 1299s
      1989 BMW K100RS
      1982 GS1100E-current build
      1980 GS1000E-sold
      1982 GS1100L-sold
      1982 CX500-sold

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        #18
        Originally posted by Big T View Post
        Previous previous owner used the wrong procedure to measure valve clearances.

        Which method did you use?

        Cam chain stretch has a spec in the manual. X length over y pins
        Just visually looking and feeling the cam chain, it looks to be in very good shape.

        I agree with the possibility that the previous previous owner may have had an issue on those two. If the motor was in the bike with the tank on and carbs on, it would be a real PIA to get to those two. With the motor out, it’s easy to work on.
        2016 Ducati 1299s
        1989 BMW K100RS
        1982 GS1100E-current build
        1980 GS1000E-sold
        1982 GS1100L-sold
        1982 CX500-sold

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          #19
          I look for a way to get it back in... no?

          Valve adjustment - #1
          Timing chain tensioner working, adjusted
          I have mine in pieces and my guides/chain look really well (unknown age)
          I have to replace the head (posted) because of something else but aside from re-sealing from the block up, valve adjusting and syncing the carbs, I'm not replacing anything.

          Disclaimer: I am replacing/rebuilding the cylinder head so adjusting the valves is a gimmie. But if you have the engine out, it's so much easier to do it now
          Current:
          1993 ZX11 - 2nd build in progress
          1977 GS750 (710 is getting closer)
          1998 Kawasaki Voyager - selling
          1998 Chevy C2500
          1999 Rav4

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            #20
            Getting the chassis back together.....2566A127-44D1-4195-A8E0-F6202714A66C.jpg
            2016 Ducati 1299s
            1989 BMW K100RS
            1982 GS1100E-current build
            1980 GS1000E-sold
            1982 GS1100L-sold
            1982 CX500-sold

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              #21
              Originally posted by winmag4582001 View Post
              The way I checked it:
              Rotate the motor to the proper cam position, checked with feeler gauge, rotate 180’ and checked again. Did that for each valve. Used the little valve compressor tool thing that I borrowed from a friend to remove the disc and document the thickness.
              Just the two center cylinder intakes had a lot of gap. All the others were at the upper end of spec.
              That is not the correct procedure. See page 3-5 is the manual: http://zeus.mtsac.edu/~cliff/storage...S-L_Manual.pdf
              Jordan

              1977 Suzuki GS750 (My first bike)
              2000 Kawasaki ZRX1100
              1973 BMW R75/5

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                #22
                Originally posted by hannibal View Post
                That is not the correct procedure. See page 3-5 is the manual: http://zeus.mtsac.edu/~cliff/storage...S-L_Manual.pdf
                THANK YOU! Greatly appreciated! I’ll recheck right now.
                2016 Ducati 1299s
                1989 BMW K100RS
                1982 GS1100E-current build
                1980 GS1000E-sold
                1982 GS1100L-sold
                1982 CX500-sold

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by hannibal View Post
                  That is not the correct procedure. See page 3-5 is the manual: http://zeus.mtsac.edu/~cliff/storage...S-L_Manual.pdf
                  Did it by the procedure. Still gauging at .009mm on the two center intake valves.

                  Thanks again!
                  2016 Ducati 1299s
                  1989 BMW K100RS
                  1982 GS1100E-current build
                  1980 GS1000E-sold
                  1982 GS1100L-sold
                  1982 CX500-sold

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                    #24
                    Done. I have the needles set too high, boggs at midrange but runs at top end like a champ.

                    2016 Ducati 1299s
                    1989 BMW K100RS
                    1982 GS1100E-current build
                    1980 GS1000E-sold
                    1982 GS1100L-sold
                    1982 CX500-sold

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