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Is this a sign of a failed head gasket?
On my 77 GS750, the exterior "seam" between the head and the cylinder block where the head gasket is, is dark with oil all the way around the engine. Is this a sign of a potential head gasket failure? I haven't been able to do a compression test yet and I'm not sure I'll be able to for some time. I'm in-between houses right now and don't really have a good place to work on my bikes. I intend to do a compression test once I'm able, but I thought I'd ask you guys what you think to help prepare myself.
- 1983 GS850L ~ 30,000 miles and going up - Finally ready for a proper road trip!
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Yup. That looks like a gasket leak to me. Regarding a compression check, be sure to adjust the valves first and hold the throttle wide open with a hot engine.Ed
To measure is to know.
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If the general consensus is that the head gasket has failed, then I will probably skip the compression test and tear the motor down for gaskets. While I'm in there, I hope to install some 850 pistons and jugs if I have them by the time I get that deep into the bike build.- 1983 GS850L ~ 30,000 miles and going up - Finally ready for a proper road trip!
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To be more sure, you could clean it up, dry it well, then spray foot powder all around the valve cover gasket area, tach drive inlet, cam chain tensioner , and head gasket. Fire it up and see what gets wet where. Only cost you a can of foot powder spray if you don’t already have one.Rich
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A compression test might take 15 minutes???? Why not do it and see the numbers before tearing into the engine?Ron
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If the general consensus is that the head gasket has failed, then I will probably skip the compression test and tear the motor down for gaskets. While I'm in there, I hope to install some 850 pistons and jugs if I have them by the time I get that deep into the bike build.
I forgot to mention the bike doesn't run. Needs the carbs cleaned.- 1983 GS850L ~ 30,000 miles and going up - Finally ready for a proper road trip!
- 1977 GS750B - Sold but not forgotten
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Originally posted by 93Bandit View PostIf the general consensus is that the head gasket has failed, then I will probably skip the compression test and tear the motor down for gaskets. While I'm in there, I hope to install some 850 pistons and jugs if I have them by the time I get that deep into the bike build.
I forgot to mention the bike doesn't run. Needs the carbs cleaned.
why friviously dismantle the top end without numbers?
aspire harder1983 GS 550 LD
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Originally posted by Cipher View Postdo the check
why friviously dismantle the top end without numbers?
aspire harderEd
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Agreed Nessism. But wouldn't you want to get it running to see what else might be wrong in the engine or tranny before tearing into it? Or maybe it was running at some point, who knows?Ron
When I die, just cremate me and put me in my GS tank. That way I can go through these carbs, one more time!https://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/core/images/smilies/cool.png
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I'd split the whole engine. Parts are cheap enough to not worry too much about what you would find.Ed
To measure is to know.
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Torque check would be first on my list too. When mine failed it was between 1&2 on the front side. Large parts of the join were bone dry and I was losing a litre every 400 miles, boots wet.
Get the tank off and have a look at the valve cover gasket in between the cams and the chain tunnel area. A leak here can get out the front and run around the headgasket.Last edited by Brendan W; 11-09-2019, 07:41 AM.97 R1100R
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Originally posted by Brendan W View PostTorque check would be first on my list too. When mine failed it was between 1&2 on the front side. Large parts of the join were bone dry and I was losing a litre every 400 miles, boots wet.
Get the tank off and have a look at the valve cover gasket in between the cams and the chain tunnel area. A leak here can get out the front and run around the headgasket.
But if your plan is to rebuild it anyway…moot point.1982 GS1100G- road bike
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Originally posted by Cipher View Postdo the check
why friviously dismantle the top end without numbers?
aspire harder
Originally posted by Cipher View Postobviously but why not do the check
to measure is to have more than a zesty sig line
Originally posted by 1978GS750E View PostAgreed Nessism. But wouldn't you want to get it running to see what else might be wrong in the engine or tranny before tearing into it? Or maybe it was running at some point, who knows?
Originally posted by Brendan W View PostTorque check would be first on my list too. When mine failed it was between 1&2 on the front side. Large parts of the join were bone dry and I was losing a litre every 400 miles, boots wet.
Get the tank off and have a look at the valve cover gasket in between the cams and the chain tunnel area. A leak here can get out the front and run around the headgasket.- 1983 GS850L ~ 30,000 miles and going up - Finally ready for a proper road trip!
- 1977 GS750B - Sold but not forgotten
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