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    #46
    Originally posted by Grimly View Post
    I've definitely used a Castrol moly grease, but they change the names in different markets.
    I'm sure the Castrol moly grease was for fork lift chains or some such heavy duty application.
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    CASTROL MOLUB-ALLOY ( Previously T white paste ) FOR CLUTCH & DRIVESHAFT SPLINES ( 100grm Tube )


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      #47
      noreg this is whats used on my 1300
      pretty cheap even with delivery from moto-bins uk

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      CASTROL MOLUB-ALLOY ( Previously T white paste ) FOR CLUTCH & DRIVESHAFT SPLINES ( 100grm Tube )


      Code: 95815
      13579111315171921232527293133353739414345474951535 5575961636567
      £9.50


      Empty basket


      Subtotal
      £9.50


      Carriage Options
      Norway

      £5.50


      Royal Mail 1st Class - £5.50
      Parcel Force - Standard - £35.00
      Fedex Express Insured (Expected Delivery: 2 days) - £36.17
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        #48
        Originally posted by Cipher View Post
        noreg this is whats used on my 1300
        pretty cheap even with delivery from moto-bins uk

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        CASTROL MOLUB-ALLOY ( Previously T white paste ) FOR CLUTCH & DRIVESHAFT SPLINES ( 100grm Tube )


        Code: 95815
        13579111315171921232527293133353739414345474951535 5575961636567
        £9.50


        Empty basket


        Subtotal
        £9.50


        Carriage Options
        Norway

        £5.50


        Royal Mail 1st Class - £5.50
        Parcel Force - Standard - £35.00
        Fedex Express Insured (Expected Delivery: 2 days) - £36.17
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        £15.00





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        Nice, that is perfect! I ordered three tubes.
        GS1000G 1981

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          #49
          Originally posted by Cipher View Post
          noreg this is whats used on my 1300
          pretty cheap even with delivery from moto-bins uk

          Your Basket

          CASTROL MOLUB-ALLOY ( Previously T white paste ) FOR CLUTCH & DRIVESHAFT SPLINES ( 100grm Tube )


          Code: 95815
          13579111315171921232527293133353739414345474951535 5575961636567
          £9.50


          Empty basket


          Subtotal
          £9.50


          Carriage Options
          Norway

          £5.50


          Royal Mail 1st Class - £5.50
          Parcel Force - Standard - £35.00
          Fedex Express Insured (Expected Delivery: 2 days) - £36.17
          Calculate Carriage to your country:
          Choose



          Total
          £15.00





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          Nice, that is perfect! I ordered three tubes.

          But does this contain enough mos2?
          GS1000G 1981

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            #50
            That CASTROL MOLUB-ALLOY stuff is not suitable for the splines. It's an assembly lube and for avoiding fretting corrosion. There is zero moly in it.
            Ed

            To measure is to know.

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              #51
              Here's another Beemer offering definitely for splines.


              It seems the Molub-Alloy is only for assembly, as Nessism points out.
              <p><strong>Castrol Molub-Alloy Paste White T</strong> is an assembly paste with mineral oil and selected white solid lubricants. It is suitable for any application, resists hot and cold water, and is almost transparent when used for thin film lubrication purposes.</p> <br> <p>Formerly known as Castrol Optimol Paste White T, this assembly paste is specially formulated to provide excellent resistance to wear and good corrosion protection to support easy assembly and disassembly. The paste prevents fretting corrosion caused by frictional vibrations when applied in a thin layer, and is resistant to high-temperature operations.</p> <br> <p>Buy yours today, or speak to the technical experts at Broughton Lubricants for advice specific to your application.</p>


              On the other hand, here's the proper stuff for heavy duty applications...
              Castrol Molub-Alloy 870-2 is a black, molybdenum disulphide containing, universal, high performance grease for extreme loads and extra long term lubrication. FORMERLY KNOWN AS OPTIMOL OLISTAMOLY 2.

              Ignore the 208L drum, there's a 400g cartridge for just a few quid.
              Last edited by Grimly; 07-22-2020, 10:51 AM.
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                #52
                Originally posted by Nessism View Post
                That CASTROL MOLUB-ALLOY stuff is not suitable for the splines. It's an assembly lube and for avoiding fretting corrosion. There is zero moly in it.

                Its what the BMW Manual calls for for drive shaft splines.
                1983 GS 550 LD
                2009 BMW K1300s

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by Cipher View Post
                  Its what the BMW Manual calls for for drive shaft splines.
                  The rear wheel is not a typical spline like on a drive shaft. For the wheel a moly paste product with at least 50% moly is strongly suggested. Both the common Honda and Loctite moly greases/paste suggested earlier in this thread contain at least 60% moly.
                  Ed

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                    #54
                    Dang, this has got confusing. Parts house grease is from 4% to 9% Moly, that's what I used last time, but kind'f wish I hadn't. The Honda M60 is 60% Moly, but is discontinued. Loctite has some, 65% Moly, comes in oil, or aerosol, some says for assembly, some is for anti-seize. Jet-lube MP50 that is 50%, Is 50% enough? This ain't near as simple as it ought to be. The Honda M60 still available on ebay, guess I'll order some, but thought there would be something down at the parts store that should work fine.
                    1983 GS1100E, 1983 CB1100F, 1991 GSX1100G, 1996 Kaw. ZL600 Eliminator, 1999 Bandit 1200S, 2005 Bandit 1200S, 2000 Kaw. ZRX 1100

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                      #55
                      If you have a BMW dealer nearby, ask them for the same stuff that they lube the clutch splines on old airheads with. That will work fine.
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                      81 GS650G for the wife.
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                        #56
                        Originally posted by rphillips View Post
                        Dang, this has got confusing. Parts house grease is from 4% to 9% Moly, that's what I used last time, but kind'f wish I hadn't. The Honda M60 is 60% Moly, but is discontinued. Loctite has some, 65% Moly, comes in oil, or aerosol, some says for assembly, some is for anti-seize. Jet-lube MP50 that is 50%, Is 50% enough? This ain't near as simple as it ought to be. The Honda M60 still available on ebay, guess I'll order some, but thought there would be something down at the parts store that should work fine.
                        Why do you wish you hadn't? People seem to think its fine for a one time use.

                        Where do you find M60 on ebay? Whenever I see it, the listing is like "M60 / M77". M77 is the "new version" and it has way less moly.

                        I have found it mildly infuriating trying to find a product with adequate amoutns of moly. So many doesn't list contents, and its been a lot of data sheets and similar to decode what is in it.

                        When I find something its obscenly expensive to import and they might not send it. Now I am slightly worried it is somehow illegal in Norway.

                        Maybe I should just ride down to the UK and pick some up.
                        GS1000G 1981

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by Cipher View Post
                          Its what the BMW Manual calls for for drive shaft splines.
                          The Molub-Alloy name seems to cover several grades.
                          Typical marketing shoolbit is all - why can't they just label it "Great Moly Spline Grease for Tanks", "Simple Moly Grease for Ordinary Joes", and "Moly Assembly Lube for Tinkerers".
                          Last edited by Grimly; 07-22-2020, 07:23 PM.
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                            #58
                            Yep, that's exactly what I's try'in to say.
                            1983 GS1100E, 1983 CB1100F, 1991 GSX1100G, 1996 Kaw. ZL600 Eliminator, 1999 Bandit 1200S, 2005 Bandit 1200S, 2000 Kaw. ZRX 1100

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by Grimly View Post
                              Here's another Beemer offering definitely for splines.


                              It seems the Molub-Alloy is only for assembly, as Nessism points out.
                              <p><strong>Castrol Molub-Alloy Paste White T</strong> is an assembly paste with mineral oil and selected white solid lubricants. It is suitable for any application, resists hot and cold water, and is almost transparent when used for thin film lubrication purposes.</p> <br> <p>Formerly known as Castrol Optimol Paste White T, this assembly paste is specially formulated to provide excellent resistance to wear and good corrosion protection to support easy assembly and disassembly. The paste prevents fretting corrosion caused by frictional vibrations when applied in a thin layer, and is resistant to high-temperature operations.</p> <br> <p>Buy yours today, or speak to the technical experts at Broughton Lubricants for advice specific to your application.</p>


                              On the other hand, here's the proper stuff for heavy duty applications...
                              Castrol Molub-Alloy 870-2 is a black, molybdenum disulphide containing, universal, high performance grease for extreme loads and extra long term lubrication. FORMERLY KNOWN AS OPTIMOL OLISTAMOLY 2.

                              Ignore the 208L drum, there's a 400g cartridge for just a few quid.
                              Do you know how much the castrol aero hf has of moly? As in percentage?
                              GS1000G 1981

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by Noreg View Post
                                Do you know how much the castrol aero hf has of moly? As in percentage?
                                Nope. Given the huge cost of a high concentration of moly, it explains why the 60% stuff that Honda sold is so expensive for a small tube.
                                A quick perusal of safety data sheets for some of the Molub-Alloy products doesn't reveal much.
                                Whatever, I'm fairly sure a small percetage of Molybdenun Disulphide is more than adequate if carried out regularly -like every tyre change (and assuming the rear drive splines are the good ones to start with).
                                Last edited by Grimly; 07-26-2020, 11:53 AM.
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