Running out of ideas?

[jfsebastian]

Visit this Japanese page and see some of the most stunning bikes around.
There are bikes from Bratstyle, Gravel Crew and many others.
Mostly pics taken from bike-shows in Japan.

Drool, drool again and run of to the garage and modify.

http://sparetime.jp/photo/

JF Sebastian

[Agemax]

Visit this Japanese page and see some of the most stunning bikes around.
There are bikes from Bratstyle, Gravel Crew and many others.
Mostly pics taken from bike-shows in Japan.

Drool, drool again and run of to the garage and modify.

http://sparetime.jp/photo/

JF Sebastian

TBH i think the japanese are very substandard when it comes to producing one off attempts at cheap looking custom bikes. not a patch on the quality OCC churn out,

but then i am only looking at pics and comparing them to bikes shown on tv so i am just expressing my own opinion.

has anyone on here been to OCC or owns one of their bikes?

[jfsebastian]

TBH i think the japanese are very substandard when it comes to producing one off attempts at cheap looking custom bikes. not a patch on the quality OCC churn out,

but then i am only looking at pics and comparing them to bikes shown on tv so i am just expressing my own opinion.

has anyone on here been to OCC or owns one of their bikes?

Seriously??
OCC are repeating themselves over and over again. There are far better bike-builders than OCC. And have you ever seen a bike ignite right away? Often they need help from other builders to get the bikes started, they forget about clearance and so on. Almost like the people at Boyd Coddington. Crappy deadlines and quick fixes.
But with an awesome paint-job, all bikes/cars look sweet.

BTW, the japs are mostly building on 40+ year old original iron, not brand spanking new S&S engines. They buy HD engines and frames that americans concider junk and make sweet bikes out of it, or they take 25-40 year old Yamahas/Kawas/Hondas or Triumph and build something that reminds me of this site. Old stuff - new ideas and lots of fun. Not lots of dollars (or Yen).

Ever heard of Zero engeneering?
If not, look here. Japanese guy living in the US these days.

http://www.zerochop.com/pictureview1.html

JF

[Agemax]

"They buy HD engines and frames that americans concider junk and make sweet bikes out of it"

yeah, by spending thousands of pounds on them, or yen, whatever. its the quality that comes out of the shop that counts, OCC build bikes to sell to the public, not just their show bikes. if they use other firms to sort out their ignitions or carburation then so what? they still built the bike.

p.s notice you mention yamaha,kawasaki,honda and triumph that remind you of this site, i think you forgot the most important one! the suzuki that this site is all about. lol

[jfsebastian]

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p.s notice you mention yamaha,kawasaki,honda and triumph that remind you of this site, i think you forgot the most important one! the suzuki that this site is all about. lol

Well, sadly they hardly seem to use our favorite as a base for their customization. Probably has to do with the complicated frame that makes life a bit more difficult if you want to do something neat. The lack of kick-start on some of our engines doesnīt help either if you are after the clean no-battery-look. Jump-start seem a bit tricky for some. Donīt ask me why:-)

We are different when it comes to OCC. So what? Life is to short to spend it arguing about OCC. Bikes are great, whoever built it.

[Agemax]

Well, sadly they hardly seem to use our favorite as a base for their customization. Probably has to do with the complicated frame that makes life a bit more difficult if you want to do something neat. The lack of kick-start on some of our engines doesnīt help either if you are after the clean no-battery-look. Jump-start seem a bit tricky for some. Donīt ask me why:-)

We are different when it comes to OCC. So what? Life is to short to spend it arguing about OCC. Bikes are great, whoever built it.

fair comment, agree with you there!

[briyenkieth]

alright I'll start the fight. OCC sucks! I've seen a couple of their bikes in person and they lose a bit of the glory when in front of you. Spinner wheels were gay when they put them on cars. so how could they be cool on a bike? The idear's they churn out are played out. And let's not start with all the fake drama. When they built that M.I.A. bike and Senior laid out his sentimental bull about a war he didn't even serve in. Come on! Then the NASA bike, do I need to remind anyone of the awful tank on that pile. Or the fender. For the money and equipment at their disposal should they need outside help? I don't think so. If I had access to their shop I would only need the GSR to get my bike started not the guy who designed some cheesy hydrant shaped carb or the entire microsoft r&d team to light the fire. These guys are hacks and would be lost without Vinny or Ric. Junior couldn't build an entire bike alone if all of his money depended on it. Now guys like Jesse James or the late Indian Larry, Chica, Or the zero boys, no problem. They've done it and continue to do so today. Reality is they sold out the motorcycle comunity and are ruining the custom industry. Choppers and the like were cool long before Senior ever threw a leg over a bike. Now just try and sell that overpriced turd and see what it brings. The japs build things different as their culturenis different than ours. Don't make em less cool just a new approach. The only cool thing about American Choppers is watching them blow it on national television.

[ReTread]

alright I'll start the fight. OCC sucks! I've seen a couple of their bikes in person and they lose a bit of the glory when in front of you. Spinner wheels were gay when they put them on cars. so how could they be cool on a bike? The idear's they churn out are played out. And let's not start with all the fake drama. When they built that M.I.A. bike and Senior laid out his sentimental bull about a war he didn't even serve in. Come on! Then the NASA bike, do I need to remind anyone of the awful tank on that pile. Or the fender. For the money and equipment at their disposal should they need outside help? I don't think so. If I had access to their shop I would only need the GSR to get my bike started not the guy who designed some cheesy hydrant shaped carb or the entire microsoft r&d team to light the fire. These guys are hacks and would be lost without Vinny or Ric. Junior couldn't build an entire bike alone if all of his money depended on it. Now guys like Jesse James or the late Indian Larry, Chica, Or the zero boys, no problem. They've done it and continue to do so today. Reality is they sold out the motorcycle comunity and are ruining the custom industry. Choppers and the like were cool long before Senior ever threw a leg over a bike. Now just try and sell that overpriced turd and see what it brings. The japs build things different as their culturenis different than ours. Don't make em less cool just a new approach. The only cool thing about American Choppers is watching them blow it on national television.

I don't think OCC has sold out anybody but themselves. They are no better nor worse than the rest of the biker build off crowd.

These reality TV shows and thier storylines are as fabricated as the bikes themselves.

[pontiacstogo]

Choppers are to motorcycles as professional wrestling is to sports.

The Japanese may not do the best 'ground-up' customs, but they sure know how to tweak an old sportbike;

[tkent02]

Choppers are to motorcycles as professional wrestling is to sports.

Well said, where do bobbers fit in?

[jfsebastian]

Settle down boys.
This was a hint for ideas, not an OCC thread.
I donīt want to see another word about them.

JF

"Winning an argument over the internet is like winning gold in Special Olympics, you win but you are still a retard."

[briyenkieth]

Well said, where do bobbers fit in?

right next to cafe's! Just kidding love cafe's. Matter of fact I love all motorcycles. Don't care where they came from as long as they look and function in their set genre. Chopps, bobs, cafe or any variation of custom shouldn't be mass produced in my opinion. For instance the new triumph thruxston is a nice bike, but pales when compared to an earlier t120 that was cafe'd by some dude in his garage. More than half of my friends that have custom harley's have nicer rides than some of these high buck bikes. Just a matter of soul I guess. Another great example would be some of the bikes on this site. I can't remember the guys name off hand but there's a champagne colored bike on the forum with full gsxr conversion. This bike kills any of the factory holigan bikes sold. Again soul....

[GQROD]

Shinya Kimura, and Chica of Chica customs are both very talented. One likes the old school look while Chica does more modern custom choppers.

OCC started great with innovative, original designs. However due to Paul Seniors impatience and the son's lack of real artistic talent most bikes turn out rather corny in design and poorly executed. Very much like Coddington's cars of late.

Granted the good thing about different builders is everyone has better choices to make regarding how to spend $150,000.00 on a motorcycle.

[jed.only]

blah to this entire conversation.

[jwhelan65]

Honda

Choppers are to motorcycles as professional wrestling is to sports.

The Japanese may not do the best 'ground-up' customs, but they sure know how to tweak an old sportbike;

That Honda is just Sick!! What a machine!! Those old CBF's rival GSers!