Cleaning up the Cafe

[Leigh]

Great stuff, Beergood.
I like the way you've gone about it.

I have kids (not new ones though), a healing collarbone and a GS painted in Killrust Ocean Blue.
Just last night I decided I'd like to cafe it on the cheap.
Today I find your bike.

Kismet, no?

[ChicagoBob]

Tarozzis would be worth the $300. Raask, not so much.

[DMorris]

You might want to check with 'danmoto' for rearsets. I know they don't have them specificly for your bike but being a chinese co., they are CHEAP enough than it would be worth while buying a set to modify to fit.

http://www.dan-moto.com/index.php?main_page=advanced_search_result&inc_subcat=1&search_in_description=1&zenid=gl5kgi14hhmb1i3rjv4c4j7vc0&categories_id=&keyword=rearsets

I fact, I just went back and had another look and bought a set for a GSXR750 or 1100 in black for $40.00 WITH 31.00 SHIPPING.
the sets that are still available all appear to be the same with the exception of the mount plate which differs between bikes.

[drivera84]

hi beergood,

Im curiouse about how you did your seatpan. Is it possible you post some pics of the bottom, If you could add a measuring tape to the picture it would be great. Did you put the hinges on the seatpan?

thanks for your help...

[morrison]

Wish I would have seen this last night. I just bid on some on ebay sooo hoepfully I lose and can get em on DANMOTO. THANKS@!

You might want to check with 'danmoto' for rearsets. I know they don't have them specificly for your bike but being a chinese co., they are CHEAP enough than it would be worth while buying a set to modify to fit.

http://www.dan-moto.com/index.php?main_page=advanced_search_result&inc_subcat=1&search_in_description=1&zenid=gl5kgi14hhmb1i3rjv4c4j7vc0&categories_id=&keyword=rearsets

I fact, I just went back and had another look and bought a set for a GSXR750 or 1100 in black for $40.00 WITH 31.00 SHIPPING.
the sets that are still available all appear to be the same with the exception of the mount plate which differs between bikes.

[Zafe]

no battery, has that caused any problems ?

also do you have a schematic of the capacitors by any chance ?

[beergood]

I don't have a schematic, but it is pretty simple to make. I sourced a bag of 16V 100000 mfd capacitors from ebay. They are about the size of a woman's thumb each, and a bag of 50 or so cost me $15.

Something like this should work (but if you ruin your bike, you are on your own):

http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Nichicon/UHE1C103MHD/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMtZ1n0r9vR22doFJZhee0ncrJC85cvVSuQ%3d

And then I soldered 10 of them in a parallel chain (positive to positive, negative to negative). Unfortunately, I didn't take any pics of the process, but basically I just lined them all up, taped them together, bent over the leads and soldered the tips of one to the bases of the next, and so on. When I got to the end I soldered some wires to attach it to the system and wrapped everything in insulation.

Since I have done this I have had zero electrical problems with the bike. The only "issue" with the bike is starting it after a long sit. Basically, you need to warm up the system. I wired in a shut off switch for the lights to help with the process, which goes like this:

• Shut off the lights and ignition
• Kick engine over a few times to charge the capacitors
• Turn on the ignition and kick it again.

I don't have to do this every time, just if the bike has sat for a while.

I also did leave in the starter motor and the positive lead so that I can jump start the bike in an emergency.

Overall, I am pretty happy with this conversion, although I realize it isn't for everybody.

[Adler]

I don't have a schematic, but it is pretty simple to make. I sourced a bag of 16V 100000 mfd capacitors from ebay. They are about the size of a woman's thumb each, and a bag of 50 or so cost me $15.

Something like this should work (but if you ruin your bike, you are on your own):

http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Nichicon/UHE1C103MHD/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMtZ1n0r9vR22doFJZhee0ncrJC85cvVSuQ%3d

And then I soldered 10 of them in a parallel chain (positive to positive, negative to negative). Unfortunately, I didn't take any pics of the process, but basically I just lined them all up, taped them together, bent over the leads and soldered the tips of one to the bases of the next, and so on. When I got to the end I soldered some wires to attach it to the system and wrapped everything in insulation.

Since I have done this I have had zero electrical problems with the bike. The only "issue" with the bike is starting it after a long sit. Basically, you need to warm up the system. I wired in a shut off switch for the lights to help with the process, which goes like this:

• Shut off the lights and ignition
• Kick engine over a few times to charge the capacitors
• Turn on the ignition and kick it again.

I don't have to do this every time, just if the bike has sat for a while.

I also did leave in the starter motor and the positive lead so that I can jump start the bike in an emergency.

Overall, I am pretty happy with this conversion, although I realize it isn't for everybody.

Wouldn't wiring ten 100,000uF 16v caps in parallel make one 1F 16v cap?

My understanding is that 16v is too low, you should choose a voltage that is about double the voltage you expect (or so I hear).

I used one of these...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/14-000uF-40V-Electrolytic-Capacitor-mF-Mallory-Cornell-Dubilier-5910-01-175-2797-/140653441183?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20bf99309f

[beergood]

Yup, you could use one big ole capacitor. That is basically what the "battery eliminators" are. I just had these, so that is what I used.

Also, yes, a higher voltage rating would be safer, but the highest voltage that I have metered from my charging system is around a high 13v, so 16 is safe enough for me.

But seeing that ebay posting makes me think I might pick that up, so thanks.

[Adler]

Yup, you could use one big ole capacitor. That is basically what the "battery eliminators" are. I just had these, so that is what I used.

Also, yes, a higher voltage rating would be safer, but the highest voltage that I have metered from my charging system is around a high 13v, so 16 is safe enough for me.

But seeing that ebay posting makes me think I might pick that up, so thanks.

Run a search on ebay for "000uf*" for a wide selection.

[Zafe]

Awesome. Im striving for that clean triangle under the seat. Ill update to let you know how it turns out. Also I noticed your running a 4-1 and pods, can help to ask what hey kit are you using ?

[brslk]

Very nice bike but it needs spoked wheels.

(of course I am biased. I have a 78' GS 550 with spokes)

[beergood]

A buddy of mine had a 1000 with mags. He wanted spokes, and he found this bike. I bought the bike after he swapped the wheels.

I would prefer to have spokes, but I haven't found the right deal yet.

[verde]

Just refound this thread looking for an example of the fuel door being filled in. Very nice build Your blog is a crack up with the evolution of paint schemes.

Figured I'd go ahead and necro post a bit to add my two cents on a kick-only bike. An alternative to the capacitors I'm a fan of is a 12v scooter battery, and it is probably a better alternative for bikes with upgraded ignition. Duraboost CB3L-B happens to be the one that was in stock at cyclegear. Costs just under $20 and works great(just can't crank a big motor). Note the size compared to the new reg/rec. This is on a hard tailed '78 750, so you can gauge just how tucked in there behind the engine it is.