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    Where in Ontario VHT 127 Paint ???

    I was on Phone for 4 5 hours tried can tire napa speed shops no luck any one know where i casn buy a couple cans vht 127 sparay apint for my GS engine? Thanx Mike
    avmmachine@rogers.com

    #2
    Same problem in BC. I tried Napa, Lordco, Canadian Tire with no luck. I did find some VHT aluminum caliper paint at Canadian Tire though. Colour and finish looks real close to stock. Hope it lasts OK. Who knows, might even be the same stuff with a different label.

    Last edited by Sandy; 03-17-2013, 11:40 AM.
    '84 GS750EF (Oct 2015 BOM) '79 GS1000N (June 2007 BOM) My Flickr site http://www.flickr.com/photos/soates50/
    https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4306/35860327946_08fdd555ac_z.jpg

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      #3
      Don't let any gas hit it Sandy, did my block in the same paint out of desperation and it sure didn't like 'any' gas. Looks good though. I'm going to try ordering some VHT engine paint over the net and see what happens.The head looks great by the way, that picture almost makes it look warm where you are.
      Rob
      1983 1100ES, 98' ST1100, 02' DR-Z400E and a few other 'bits and pieces'
      Are you on the GSR Google Earth Map yet? http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=170533

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        #4
        CT used to stock it here. I wonder if its a local rule or a provincial hazardous products issue with you guys.

        Ontario is a lot more civilized than we are so it has a lot more rules no doubt.

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          #5
          The VHT SP-127 is a HIGH temp engine enamel....I am not so sure that caliper paint wont bubble and burn off a 300 degree engine!!!



          Order the SP 127 from Summit Racing or from Eastwood.
          MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
          1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

          NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


          I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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            #6
            Originally posted by chuck hahn View Post
            The VHT SP-127 is a HIGH temp engine enamel....I am not so sure that caliper paint wont bubble and burn off a 300 degree engine!!!



            Order the SP 127 from Summit Racing or from Eastwood.
            Actually the caliper paint requires baking at 300F so heat wise it should be good. Calipers under stress can get extremely hot so I don't think heat would be an issue. The gas thing surprises me though as I would think something impervious to brake fluid would be OK with gas. I guess before I paint my cylinders I should get the proper stuff. I think Eastwood has a Canadian outlet so maybe try that although I might be due for a trip to the Montana shipping outlet some stuff.
            '84 GS750EF (Oct 2015 BOM) '79 GS1000N (June 2007 BOM) My Flickr site http://www.flickr.com/photos/soates50/
            https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4306/35860327946_08fdd555ac_z.jpg

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              #7
              The caliper paint has a higher temp rating than the engine enamel. I contacted VHT and asked them if the caliper paint can be used on an engine. Their reply was it is pretty much the same composition so yes. Just ensure you use primer they said.

              You have to bake the caliper paint 150 cel for 1 hour as per their instructions.
              1978 Gs1085 compliments of Popy Yosh, Bandit 1200 wheels and front end, VM33 Smoothbores, Yosh exhaust, braced frame, ported polished head :cool:
              1983 Gs1100ESD, rebuild finished! Body paintwork happening winter 2017:D

              I would rather trust my bike to a technician that reads the service manual than some backyardigan that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix things.

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                #8
                If it is rated for that kinda heat then i guess its all good. You are the first person I have heard of painting one with caliper paint though.
                MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Fjbj40 View Post
                  The caliper paint has a higher temp rating than the engine enamel. I contacted VHT and asked them if the caliper paint can be used on an engine. Their reply was it is pretty much the same composition so yes. Just ensure you use primer they said.

                  You have to bake the caliper paint 150 cel for 1 hour as per their instructions.
                  Sort of what I thought, thanks for asking and the feedback. I baked mine at 300F for 1 1/2 hour a week ago so it should be cured. I'm going to do a gas test on an inconspicuous spot and see what happens. I'll report back.
                  '84 GS750EF (Oct 2015 BOM) '79 GS1000N (June 2007 BOM) My Flickr site http://www.flickr.com/photos/soates50/
                  https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4306/35860327946_08fdd555ac_z.jpg

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                    #10
                    OK, I did a gas test on the paint. I found a spot I could keep wet with raw gas and let it sit for about ten minutes. It had no affect on the paint at all, no bubbling, no colour coming off on the rag and no soft spots on the paint. I could scrape it with my thumb nail and not even leave a mark. The instructions do say that you must bake the paint to give it the durability and chemical resistance. Looks like this stuff is going work just fine. It'll just need a long term test once I can swap the head out.
                    '84 GS750EF (Oct 2015 BOM) '79 GS1000N (June 2007 BOM) My Flickr site http://www.flickr.com/photos/soates50/
                    https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4306/35860327946_08fdd555ac_z.jpg

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Sandy View Post
                      OK, I did a gas test on the paint. I found a spot I could keep wet with raw gas and let it sit for about ten minutes. It had no affect on the paint at all, no bubbling, no colour coming off on the rag and no soft spots on the paint. I could scrape it with my thumb nail and not even leave a mark. The instructions do say that you must bake the paint to give it the durability and chemical resistance. Looks like this stuff is going work just fine. It'll just need a long term test once I can swap the head out.
                      Do you think running the engine would do the same thing and cure the paint ?

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by anthonygs1000 View Post
                        Do you think running the engine would do the same thing and cure the paint ?
                        Not sure but it probably would. I baked mine mainly because this is a spare head I'm putting together and it might be months before it is actually put into service and didn't know if sitting that long would be a problem or not. It's also still winter here and I didn't think letting it sit curing in a cold garage would be the best for it. Besides that's what the instructions said. Don't tell my wife I actually read them and certainly don't tell her I used HER oven when she was away.
                        '84 GS750EF (Oct 2015 BOM) '79 GS1000N (June 2007 BOM) My Flickr site http://www.flickr.com/photos/soates50/
                        https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4306/35860327946_08fdd555ac_z.jpg

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Sandy View Post
                          Not sure but it probably would. I baked mine mainly because this is a spare head I'm putting together and it might be months before it is actually put into service and didn't know if sitting that long would be a problem or not. It's also still winter here and I didn't think letting it sit curing in a cold garage would be the best for it. Besides that's what the instructions said. Don't tell my wife I actually read them and certainly don't tell her I used HER oven when she was away.
                          The reason I was asking was i would love to touch up a complete motor and cant fit it in my oven

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by anthonygs1000 View Post
                            Do you think running the engine would do the same thing and cure the paint ?
                            It should work. The VHT cure process for the caliper paint if you don't bake it is to operate the brakes multiple times to heat them up real well and it will cure after several times at doing this. This info can be found on the VHT website by the way.

                            They were quite helpful when I emailed them with questions, you can reply when they answer you and do it as many times as you wish and it always goes back to the same person who first answered you. Kinda neat as you don't get bounced around and have to repeat your questions because it is always someone different answering the questions.

                            Regards,
                            Daryl
                            1978 Gs1085 compliments of Popy Yosh, Bandit 1200 wheels and front end, VM33 Smoothbores, Yosh exhaust, braced frame, ported polished head :cool:
                            1983 Gs1100ESD, rebuild finished! Body paintwork happening winter 2017:D

                            I would rather trust my bike to a technician that reads the service manual than some backyardigan that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix things.

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                              #15
                              I'm guessing that's why mine didn't like the gas then. I haven't run the engine yet. Glad yours is working out Sandy, but there's no way, no how I could have cure mine in the oven..I would be single, lol. I can't tell you how many times I've stunk the house up, I think I'm out of chances. You should have been here the time I boiled carbs in Pine Sol, holy cow does that stuff stink! opps...
                              Rob
                              1983 1100ES, 98' ST1100, 02' DR-Z400E and a few other 'bits and pieces'
                              Are you on the GSR Google Earth Map yet? http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=170533

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