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    Where does it stop?!?!?!!!! – engine cleaning

    Where does it stop?!?!?!!!! – engine cleaning

    So I took the head off to replace the leaking head gasket. Am considering having the head vat-ed and glass beaded while it is off (while it is off I decided to lap the valves and replace the valve seals but that's a different discussion)

    Then I get the feedback to also do the base gasket since it’s taken apart this far. Well that is another gasket and cylinder o-rings and is another some $ for having that cleaned. Ok so let’s say I do that.

    Then the case below the cylinders has some oil gunk…..

    So I’m wondering, should I just take out the engine and have the whole thing blasted with glass beads and get the whole thing clean?

    I’m a function first guy so this rabbit hole of cleaning makes me itch. It can only be justified with …well as long as its apart this far.

    However, if the objective is clean, then maybe having the whole engine cleaned from the outside may be the ticket.

    Grrrrr.
    1981 GS750L - Owned since 1990 when graduated high school and since have been discovering all the things not disclosed by seller.
    1983 GS750E - bought in 2016 as a rough runner to use while rebuilding 81L and then to combine with ES to make one good one
    1983 GS750ES - bought in Toronto in 2015 on a lark as a non-runner, missing front cowling and exhaust - If you have a 1983 750ES front cowling let me know! Blue would be nice

    #2
    Where does it stop? It stops when you decide it stops, it can go on forever or not. I guess it depends on the mileage whether you go for new rings while you do, and should do, the base gasket. I did my top end a while ago including new rings and now that it's broken in again I just got back from a 2,500 km trip and was pleased that I only had to add about a cup of oil to bring back to where it was when I left. Let me see here, pull the motor to clean up the rest of it and notice the frame probably looks like crap too ......and on it goes. LOL.
    '84 GS750EF (Oct 2015 BOM) '79 GS1000N (June 2007 BOM) My Flickr site http://www.flickr.com/photos/soates50/
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      #3
      It ends once you decide that motorcycles actually do look better with mud, bugs and blood on them. And look a Hell of a lot better when you are riding than when you are cleaning them. A bike that looks like it never left the showroom is about as uninteresting as a bike that never left the showroom.
      http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...tatesMap-1.jpg

      Life is too short to ride an L.

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        #4
        Originally posted by tkent02 View Post
        It ends once you decide that motorcycles actually do look better with mud, bugs and blood on them. And look a Hell of a lot better when you are riding than when you are cleaning them. A bike that looks like it never left the showroom is about as uninteresting as a bike that never left the showroom.
        Meh....I disagree. Cleaning your bike is a great way to see things going south. Just as AZR...lol
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          #5
          too much dirt interferes with cooling. too much dirt holds moisture and chemicals that corrode and make dissassembly difficult. a bike with beautiful paint was meant to be seen.
          even though I tend to be a (happy) sloven, I admire people that can ride their bike AND keep it clean.

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            #6
            Originally posted by tkent02 View Post
            It ends once you decide that motorcycles actually do look better with mud, bugs and blood on them. And look a Hell of a lot better when you are riding than when you are cleaning them. A bike that looks like it never left the showroom is about as uninteresting as a bike that never left the showroom.
            That is pretty much my philosophy, as well.

            I tell people that I keep my bike(s) clean enough to look good, but dirty enough to let you know that they DO get ridden.

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            hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
            #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
            #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
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              #7
              I like them to be clean enough that I can see if something is leaking.
              1982 GS1100E "Jolene"

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                #8
                Agreed with Tom and Steve. While I can appreciate a clean bike, its just not my gig. A good washing and degreasing once a year does it for me.
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                When consulting the magic 8 ball for advice, one must first ask it "will your answers be accurate?"

                Glen
                -85 1150 es - Plus size supermodel.
                -Rusty old scooter.
                Other things I like to photograph.....instagram.com/gs_junkie
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Steve View Post
                  That is pretty much my philosophy, as well.

                  I tell people that I keep my bike(s) clean enough to look good, but dirty enough to let you know that they DO get ridden.

                  .
                  Doesn't matter to me whether or not people know I ride them...I know I do. It's funny, people see my bikes and say "you must not ride them much"?...then I tell them my yearly mileage...lol
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                    #10
                    I keep my motorcycles CLEAN! Sure they get dirty from rain, bugs and road grime. But then it's bath time, which is what I'm going to do this afternoon. I have 1,400 miles of rally road grime to wash off👍
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                    My Motorcycles:
                    22 Kawasaki Z900 RS (Candy Tone Blue)
                    22 BMW K1600GT (Probably been to a town near you)
                    82 1100e Drag Bike (needs race engine)
                    81 1100e Street Bike (with race engine)
                    79 1000e (all original)
                    82 850g (all original)
                    80 KZ 650F (needs restored)

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                      #11
                      I got stuck in that rut (where does it stop?) and ended up with a project in my garage for over a year. I had to decide to stop - it wasn't going to on it's own. That being said, if i had the engine apart I'd probably clean the whole damn thing once and be done with it. Maybe that would work if that was all I was doing, and worrying about everything else another time. It's hard to do.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Gorminrider View Post
                        too much dirt interferes with cooling. too much dirt holds moisture and chemicals that corrode and make dissassembly difficult. a bike with beautiful paint was meant to be seen.
                        even though I tend to be a (happy) sloven, I admire people that can ride their bike AND keep it clean.
                        Mine had so much oil and such on the motor, it actually preserved it. Now that its clean, its easy to see where its leaking
                        Current Rides: 82 GS1100E, 00 Triumph 955 Speed Triple:twistedevil:, 03 Kawasaki ZRX1200, 01 Honda GL1800, '15 Kawasaki 1000 Versys
                        Past Rides: 72 Honda SL-125, Kawasaki KE-175, 77 GS750 with total yosh stage 1 kit, 79 GS1000s, 80 GS1000S, 82 GS750e,82 GS1000S, 84 VF500f, 86 FZR600, 95 Triumph Sprint 900,96 Triumph Sprint, 97 Triumph Sprint, 01 Kawasaki ZRX1200, 07 Triumph Tiger 1050, 01 Yam YFZ250F
                        Work in progress: 78 GS1000, unknown year GS1100ES

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                          #13
                          hah! limeex2-there IS something to be said for that special black oily-type scum! Preserves paint too- I find some of the nicest original paint under that thin oil+dust combo ! Leads me to think a really good "winterizer" could be developed from it somehow...
                          But it only seems to build up around sheltered places...the bad crap attacks the rest

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by trevor View Post
                            Doesn't matter to me whether or not people know I ride them...I know I do. It's funny, people see my bikes and say "you must not ride them much"?...then I tell them my yearly mileage...lol
                            I keep mine clean as well and always have. I don't ride that much where I live as there's really nowhere to go and no one to go there with! It hasn't helped that it's been over 100 degrees and no end in sight till around October.

                            My Mustang has 70,000 miles on it, is 15 years old, and looks like it's a garage queen. Detailing can be very rewarding and is good therapy...like pulling weeds right after it rained, lol!
                            https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4442/...678005be58.jpg

                            1982 GS1100 G converted by Motorcyclist magazine in 1986 to be a tribute to the Wes Cooley replica. 1982 Honda 900F. 1997 Yamaha VMax.
                            Also owned: 1973 Kawasaki Z1 900, 1972 Honda 750 K, 1976 Yamaha XS 650, 1980 Kawasaki KZ 1000 MKII, 1978 Kawasaki SR 650. Current cage is a 2001 Mustang Bullitt in Dark Highland Green. Bought new in Sept. 2001.

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                              #15
                              Clean, but no queens. I suppose I put on 10k a year between the bikes.
                              Current Rides: 82 GS1100E, 00 Triumph 955 Speed Triple:twistedevil:, 03 Kawasaki ZRX1200, 01 Honda GL1800, '15 Kawasaki 1000 Versys
                              Past Rides: 72 Honda SL-125, Kawasaki KE-175, 77 GS750 with total yosh stage 1 kit, 79 GS1000s, 80 GS1000S, 82 GS750e,82 GS1000S, 84 VF500f, 86 FZR600, 95 Triumph Sprint 900,96 Triumph Sprint, 97 Triumph Sprint, 01 Kawasaki ZRX1200, 07 Triumph Tiger 1050, 01 Yam YFZ250F
                              Work in progress: 78 GS1000, unknown year GS1100ES

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