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No fuel through carb, where do I start?
1982 GS1100GL. I recently rebuilt carbs and looks like I got something wrong. Number one cylinder not firing. I have spark, compression is 150. I pulled the number one spark plug, poured some go juice in the hole, replaced the plug, started the engine and number one fired. There is gas in the number one carb bowl. Mixture screw is a shade over 2.5 turns out. Petcock is new. All other cylinders fine. No obvious defects in intake boot, though I know that's not worth much. I'm thinking I need to pull the carbs to get a better look at number one, but not sure where to begin after that. Thanks in advance.Last edited by Rusty Studebaker; 11-01-2023, 04:48 PM.1982 Suzuki GS1100GL (in progress)
1981 Honda Gold Wing GL 1100 (in progress)
2005 Honda CB900F (919) current
2006 Yamaha FJR 1300 (current, coast to coast May 2023)
2007 Kawasaki Ninja 650R
2014 Yamaha V-Star 1300 (Philly to Key West June 2016)
2014 Yamaha V Star 950
2014 Moto Guzzi California 1400
2012 Triumph Bonneville (coast to coast April 2014)
2009 Kawasaki Ninja 500 Tags: None
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When rebuilding, did you follow this? Replace all the O-rings?
Ed
To measure is to know.
Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182
Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846
Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf
KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection
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I did it with the aid of youtube before I found this forum. Watching the Series right now so will return to this in the morning. Thanks for the link.1982 Suzuki GS1100GL (in progress)
1981 Honda Gold Wing GL 1100 (in progress)
2005 Honda CB900F (919) current
2006 Yamaha FJR 1300 (current, coast to coast May 2023)
2007 Kawasaki Ninja 650R
2014 Yamaha V-Star 1300 (Philly to Key West June 2016)
2014 Yamaha V Star 950
2014 Moto Guzzi California 1400
2012 Triumph Bonneville (coast to coast April 2014)
2009 Kawasaki Ninja 500
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Originally posted by Rusty Studebaker View PostI did it with the aid of youtube before I found this forum. Watching the Series right now so will return to this in the morning. Thanks for the link.Ed
To measure is to know.
Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182
Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846
Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf
KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection
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That's the World Series.1982 Suzuki GS1100GL (in progress)
1981 Honda Gold Wing GL 1100 (in progress)
2005 Honda CB900F (919) current
2006 Yamaha FJR 1300 (current, coast to coast May 2023)
2007 Kawasaki Ninja 650R
2014 Yamaha V-Star 1300 (Philly to Key West June 2016)
2014 Yamaha V Star 950
2014 Moto Guzzi California 1400
2012 Triumph Bonneville (coast to coast April 2014)
2009 Kawasaki Ninja 500
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Remove the air box, run the rpm's up to 3000 and place your hand over # 1 carb intake to choke it. Might be something simple. This is a quick fix for a plugged pilot circuit I've used through out my time in the industry. This will also tell you if you have fuel moving through the carb as you will see/feel it...
Texas earned that championship...
edited for carb #... I forgot to space LOLLast edited by unfocused; 11-02-2023, 09:18 AM.Current:
1993 ZX11 - 2nd build in progress
1977 GS750 (710 is getting closer)
1998 Kawasaki Voyager - selling
1998 Chevy C2500
1999 Rav4
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Originally posted by unfocused View PostRemove the air box, run the rpm's up to 3000 and place your hand over Home carb intake to choke it. Might be something simple. This is a quick fix for a plugged pilot circuit I've used through out my time in the industry. This will also tell you if you have fuel moving through the carb as you will see/feel it...
Texas earned that championship...
Yes, the Rangers certainly did earn the victory, just as surely as the Phillies were the architects of their own demise.1982 Suzuki GS1100GL (in progress)
1981 Honda Gold Wing GL 1100 (in progress)
2005 Honda CB900F (919) current
2006 Yamaha FJR 1300 (current, coast to coast May 2023)
2007 Kawasaki Ninja 650R
2014 Yamaha V-Star 1300 (Philly to Key West June 2016)
2014 Yamaha V Star 950
2014 Moto Guzzi California 1400
2012 Triumph Bonneville (coast to coast April 2014)
2009 Kawasaki Ninja 500
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Originally posted by Rusty Studebaker View Post
Thanks, I suspect that it's something simple. I probably put something back together wrong, and maybe this will help me figure out what it is. I'm reassembling the brakes later today after the caliper rebuild kits arrive in the mail, so this will give me something to do until they get here.
Yes, the Rangers certainly did earn the victory, just as surely as the Phillies were the architects of their own demise.
One thing I noticed during my carb rebuilds... The float bowl gasket. The dark gray gaskets are thinner (blue circle) and don't protrude into the float pocket. I've had them either stick wide open or closed, hanging up on the gaskets. The float can move slightly from side to side. I made sure my floats were square and I always measure my float level on both sides.
bowl gasket.png
Current:
1993 ZX11 - 2nd build in progress
1977 GS750 (710 is getting closer)
1998 Kawasaki Voyager - selling
1998 Chevy C2500
1999 Rav4
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These are the ones I have problems with... The difference is minimal but enough to make life fun
bowl gasket 2.pngCurrent:
1993 ZX11 - 2nd build in progress
1977 GS750 (710 is getting closer)
1998 Kawasaki Voyager - selling
1998 Chevy C2500
1999 Rav4
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Originally posted by unfocused View PostThese are the ones I have problems with... The difference is minimal but enough to make life fun
bowl gasket 2.png
I knew what you meant in your post because I had the same problem and had to go back and edit. Thanks again.1982 Suzuki GS1100GL (in progress)
1981 Honda Gold Wing GL 1100 (in progress)
2005 Honda CB900F (919) current
2006 Yamaha FJR 1300 (current, coast to coast May 2023)
2007 Kawasaki Ninja 650R
2014 Yamaha V-Star 1300 (Philly to Key West June 2016)
2014 Yamaha V Star 950
2014 Moto Guzzi California 1400
2012 Triumph Bonneville (coast to coast April 2014)
2009 Kawasaki Ninja 500
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Originally posted by Rusty Studebaker View Post
Thanks, I suspect that it's something simple. I probably put something back together wrong, and maybe this will help me figure out what it is. I'm reassembling the brakes later today after the caliper rebuild kits arrive in the mail, so this will give me something to do until they get here.
Ed
To measure is to know.
Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182
Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846
Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf
KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection
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Originally posted by Nessism View Post
Did you buy new brake lines? It's critical to do so, because the old rubber deteriorates, and crud builds up inside the lines.1982 Suzuki GS1100GL (in progress)
1981 Honda Gold Wing GL 1100 (in progress)
2005 Honda CB900F (919) current
2006 Yamaha FJR 1300 (current, coast to coast May 2023)
2007 Kawasaki Ninja 650R
2014 Yamaha V-Star 1300 (Philly to Key West June 2016)
2014 Yamaha V Star 950
2014 Moto Guzzi California 1400
2012 Triumph Bonneville (coast to coast April 2014)
2009 Kawasaki Ninja 500
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Originally posted by unfocused View PostRemove the air box, run the rpm's up to 3000 and place your hand over # 1 carb intake to choke it. Might be something simple. This is a quick fix for a plugged pilot circuit I've used through out my time in the industry. This will also tell you if you have fuel moving through the carb as you will see/feel it...
Texas earned that championship...
edited for carb #... I forgot to space LOL
Also: When I pulled the airbox, number one carb had gasoline around its intake.1982 Suzuki GS1100GL (in progress)
1981 Honda Gold Wing GL 1100 (in progress)
2005 Honda CB900F (919) current
2006 Yamaha FJR 1300 (current, coast to coast May 2023)
2007 Kawasaki Ninja 650R
2014 Yamaha V-Star 1300 (Philly to Key West June 2016)
2014 Yamaha V Star 950
2014 Moto Guzzi California 1400
2012 Triumph Bonneville (coast to coast April 2014)
2009 Kawasaki Ninja 500
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Your pilot circuit is plugged. Make sure the pilot jet isn't plugged from the factory...
Float isn't stuck or fuel level to low - main would still be in fuel but pilot won't.
Make sure the slide is open when you move the idle screw. I found this out and I thought I'd posted a story about it years ago.
Fuel could be coming from the float bowl vent? Trying to suck air from somewhere if the slide is closed?
Most likely way - you left a q-tip in the pilot circuit
There isn't a most likely way and it happens.
Left a PM.Current:
1993 ZX11 - 2nd build in progress
1977 GS750 (710 is getting closer)
1998 Kawasaki Voyager - selling
1998 Chevy C2500
1999 Rav4
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That was my thought as well. I'd get the carbs back on the bench and make sure I saw flow through the pilot circuit (I take carb cleaner or WD40 spray some down into the pilot jet hole then toot some compressed air in while watching down the carb throat for good even flow through all of those tiny holes near the throttle bladePrevious GS fleet: '78 1000C, '79 750E, '81 650G, '82 1100G, '81 1100E
Other rides: '77 XS500C, '78 XS1100E
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