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    Sticking Slides

    Hello all. I’m new to the forum and am looking for some help with an apparent carburetion issue. I have combed through the internet but haven’t found a solution

    I purchased a 1980 Suzuki GS850G in 2020. I took the top end apart to fix an oil leak, which was the start of a five-year project. After reboring for oversize pistons, fixing a frozen clutch, and a dozen other issues, it was nearly done, but I could not get it to run well under load.

    The bike has Mikuni BS32SS carburetors, aftermarket electronic ignition, and I just verified that the timing is good. The bike is at sea level now; I have tried stock jets (115 main and 40 pilot), 117.5/42.5 and 120/45 jet combinations with all mixture screw adjustment settings, but it still ran poorly under load. I’m presently running 117.5/42.5 and it idles well but bogs with throttle and generally runs much worse. We noticed that with throttle, the slides jiggle up and down rapidly and don’t open uniformly. Often they drop back down to the closed position even when throttle is applied. It seems like this is a likely culprit for the lean performance above idle, but I cant figure out the cause.

    The diaphragms look good. The problem is uniform across all four carbs. If I close off the vacuum port on the intake-side of the carb and lift the slide with my finger, it stays up until I release the port, which seems like another indication of a good diaphragm. The hole on the bottom of the slide that appears to go through to the diaphragm is patent. The butterfly moves with the throttle as expected.

    I have rebuilt the carbs several times. Compression is good. The floats are set correctly, and I replaced the carb gaskets using a quality carb rebuild kit. The bike has new coils and wires, and fairly new plugs.

    Any suggestions would be welcome.

    Thank you.
    Last edited by motobean; Yesterday, 07:54 PM.

    #2
    The problem is you are running the bike without the airbox. You can get away with using pods, good ones, not china junk pods, if you rejet properly. Never run the bike without the airbox, though.

    This may help... http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846
    Last edited by Nessism; Yesterday, 07:12 PM.
    Ed

    To measure is to know.

    Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

    Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

    Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

    KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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      #3
      Thanks for the reply. I agree that putting the airbox back on would richen the mixture. I have had the airbox on in the past and observed similar performance issues.

      I should add that under load, I can't get the RPMs above 3k. It starts to backfire and starves for fuel. It seems to me that the slides not opening would keep the needle jet closed and lean out the mixture, causing the problem's we're seeing.

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        #4
        In all the years I've been here, I've never seen or heard of anyone experiencing what you suspect.

        Check my signature for the carb rebuild tutorial. Start from scratch. Replace the O-rings. Go back to stock jets. Install the airbox, along with a fresh, properly sealing filter, with well sealed airbox side covers.

        Do this, and if you have running problems, you can eliminate the carbs.
        Ed

        To measure is to know.

        Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

        Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

        Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

        KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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