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    #31
    no filter "definitely " needs oiled.
    i'm curious about this answer.
    even K&N's don't definitely have to be oiled.
    Last edited by blowerbike; 09-28-2010, 08:26 PM. Reason: hmmm

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      #32
      Thanks. I cranked it briefly and it sounded a little different but ran good. I didn't have time to test ride it. Hopefully, it's not over-oiled. I rode it a couple of days ago with the Apes un-oiled. Maybe it was really flowing free then and sounded different.
      1983 GS 1100 Guided Laser
      1983 GS 1100 G
      2000 Suzuki Intruder 1500, "Piggy Sue"
      2000 GSF 1200 Bandit (totaled in deer strike)
      1986 Suzuki Cavalcade GV 1400 LX (SOLD)

      I find working on my motorcycle mildly therapeutic when I'm not cursing.

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        #33
        I just spoke with the guy who answered the phone. I'm not sure if he is an authority on the subject but he had a strong opinion and felt sure about it. He claimed it would only filter at about 70-75% without oil and needed oil to trap a little dirt to filter better.
        Last edited by 1948man; 09-28-2010, 08:28 PM.
        1983 GS 1100 Guided Laser
        1983 GS 1100 G
        2000 Suzuki Intruder 1500, "Piggy Sue"
        2000 GSF 1200 Bandit (totaled in deer strike)
        1986 Suzuki Cavalcade GV 1400 LX (SOLD)

        I find working on my motorcycle mildly therapeutic when I'm not cursing.

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          #34
          Originally posted by blowerbike View Post
          sissy's
          just put all your air boxes back on and add some sparkly tassels to your grips
          Originally posted by wkmpt View Post
          And some Spokies!!

          I am going to have to start taking my camera to work. I see a guy in the morning, pedaling his bike to who knows where.
          Lots of thingies and doo-dads on it, including a pinwheel on the handlebars.

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            #35
            Doesn't sound like Mississippi, you must be on a different job now.
            1983 GS 1100 Guided Laser
            1983 GS 1100 G
            2000 Suzuki Intruder 1500, "Piggy Sue"
            2000 GSF 1200 Bandit (totaled in deer strike)
            1986 Suzuki Cavalcade GV 1400 LX (SOLD)

            I find working on my motorcycle mildly therapeutic when I'm not cursing.

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              #36
              Originally posted by 1948man View Post
              I called APE and they said the filters definitely need to be oiled. I forgot to ask them about cleaning but I assume it must be necessary if you oil them. If you over-oil them and they're a bit restrictive, will that work itself out in a few days or do you need to clean them to get some oil out?
              You can probably stuff them with some paper towels and wrap the outside with more to wick away some of the oil.

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                #37
                That's worth a try, thanks.
                1983 GS 1100 Guided Laser
                1983 GS 1100 G
                2000 Suzuki Intruder 1500, "Piggy Sue"
                2000 GSF 1200 Bandit (totaled in deer strike)
                1986 Suzuki Cavalcade GV 1400 LX (SOLD)

                I find working on my motorcycle mildly therapeutic when I'm not cursing.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by 1948man View Post
                  Doesn't sound like Mississippi, you must be on a different job now.
                  No, still here in Meridian.

                  Will move to another location, but will not be leaving Mississippi until mid-November.

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                  mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                  hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                  #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                  #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                  Family Portrait
                  Siblings and Spouses
                  Mom's first ride
                  Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                  (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                    #39
                    Fall is pretty in Mississippi. The mosquitos don't sweat as much.
                    1983 GS 1100 Guided Laser
                    1983 GS 1100 G
                    2000 Suzuki Intruder 1500, "Piggy Sue"
                    2000 GSF 1200 Bandit (totaled in deer strike)
                    1986 Suzuki Cavalcade GV 1400 LX (SOLD)

                    I find working on my motorcycle mildly therapeutic when I'm not cursing.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by blowerbike View Post
                      no filter "definitely " needs oiled.
                      i'm curious about this answer.
                      even K&N's don't definitely have to be oiled.

                      The oil is there to hold dirt. K&N's are poor in regards to trapping dirt and need all the help they can get. The question I have is why would anyone run them without oiling?
                      Ed

                      To measure is to know.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Nessism View Post
                        The oil is there to hold dirt. K&N's are poor in regards to trapping dirt and need all the help they can get. The question I have is why would anyone run them without oiling?

                        K&N's arent the only filters that require oiling.
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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Octain View Post
                          K&N's arent the only filters that require oiling.
                          True. Foam filters need oil too. Skipping the oil seems foolish to me.
                          Ed

                          To measure is to know.

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Nessism View Post
                            True. Foam filters need oil too. Skipping the oil seems foolish to me.
                            Me too.
                            Had the K&N's I have not been factory oiled I would have oiled em.
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                            78 GS1000
                            04 HD Fatboy

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                            ..;.;;.:;:;.,;.|__(O)___|____/_(O)|

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Nessism View Post
                              The oil is there to hold dirt. K&N's are poor in regards to trapping dirt and need all the help they can get. The question I have is why would anyone run them without oiling?
                              individual filters are installed for performance gains.
                              if a person wants to question the "non" oiling i recommend then i suggest they stick with an air box and handle bar tassels.
                              unless you live back a dirt lane...
                              you are not going to create any noticeable wear on your engine running non oiled filters.
                              your bike should run the same or really close with filters on or filters off.
                              this is not the case when you oil your filters.
                              the above is my opinion and what i have done/recommended for many years with great results and no complaints about pre-mature engine wear.
                              if the above comments are of a concern to you then leave your air box installed and pass on the whole "pod" thing.

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by blowerbike View Post
                                individual filters are installed for performance gains.
                                if a person wants to question the "non" oiling i recommend then i suggest they stick with an air box and handle bar tassels.
                                unless you live back a dirt lane...
                                you are not going to create any noticeable wear on your engine running non oiled filters.
                                your bike should run the same or really close with filters on or filters off.
                                this is not the case when you oil your filters.
                                the above is my opinion and what i have done/recommended for many years with great results and no complaints about pre-mature engine wear.
                                if the above comments are of a concern to you then leave your air box installed and pass on the whole "pod" thing.

                                K&N recommends oiling the filters for a reason; dirt entering the engine will wear out the rings, among other things. It's not the kind of wear anyone would notice unless they stack a goodly many miles on the bike though. Personally, I don't see the point of not oiling the filter, but hey, I'm not a pods fan so there you go.
                                Ed

                                To measure is to know.

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                                Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

                                Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

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