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    Minimun Compression needed to run

    Hello Everyone,
    I picked up a 1980 GS550 in a bike trade a couple of months ago and have been working though all the issues that you have with a dead bike that has not been run in seven or eight years. This site and the Basscliff site have been a gold mine in useful info and resources and my thanks to all who have taken the time to put it together.

    During the initial evaluation I found no spark on Cylinders 2-3 (which is probably the reason the bike had been sitting) and stuck fuel floats with fuel running out of the air bleed ports in the back of the carburetors. I had to replace a smoked ignition module with a Dyna S to get any spark and now the bike will start and run for a short period with a spray of starter fluid. I ran a compression test on the bike during the initial evaluation also and found that cylinders 1 and 4 had about 90-95 Psi and in 2-3 there was only 75 or so. Not too great but I don't know if I want to read too much into a compression test on a cold bike with possible sticky rings). Anyway I dumped some oil in the cylinders and they all popped right up to a respectable 135 to 155 range so I put that issue on hold for a while till I could get the bike warmed up and get a good check. I still need to run a leak down test on the cylinders to see if the head gasket is leaking and the condition of the valves but I will have to borrow a tester from my Dad. That test should also be run on a warmed up engine for good results.
    Since then I have been working though the carbs and after a couple of half hearted attempts at a quick cleanup I am in the process of the full teardown and cleaning and O ring replacement as per this site.

    Anyway, I wondered if anyone had any info on what the minimum compression could be and still have a cylinder fire with standard jets and tuning. I hate to go chasing carburetor issues if I have a mechanical problem and the compression is insufficient for the plug to fire the mixture.
    Thanks
    Last edited by Guest; 05-27-2010, 04:36 PM. Reason: typo

    #2
    Get those carbs cleaned properly and run it. I bet the compression comes up.
    Also do a valve clearance adjustment.
    1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
    1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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      #3
      Greetings and Salutations!!

      Hi Mr. thompd84,

      It sounds like you are well on your way to making your GS a reliable every day rider. Follow the maintenance lists in your "mega-welcome" and they will lead you down the path of GS nirvana, as long as you take no shortcuts. If you stray from the path you will be cursed with stuttering performance, dead batteries, hard starts, and will be broken down on the side of the path instead of riding briskly down the path. Let us begin.


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        #4
        I have been told that anything under 100 will cause you issues. Your wet test says, no problem. Going along with Chief, Get the carbs and all the rubber, along with all cylinders firing, squared away and you're golden. Good luck.............

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          #5
          Originally posted by don View Post
          I have been told that anything under 100 will cause you issues. Your wet test says, no problem. Going along with Chief, Get the carbs and all the rubber, along with all cylinders firing, squared away and you're golden. Good luck.............
          They run OK a lot lower, and they will come up with some riding.
          Don't worry about it.
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            #6
            There can be a huge difference between a cold compression test and one done on a warmed up engine. When I did it cold, I was getting around 85 psi. After warming the engine up, I'm getting right around 130 psi.
            Current Bikes:
            2001 Yamaha FZ1 (bought same one back)

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              #7
              My skunk has 120-130 cold on three and around 80 on one. Hasnt run since 01.
              I tested em buy grounding the relay as the starter button didnt work. Did this before I started taking it apart.
              Im gonna run it and hope for the best.
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                #8
                If the valve clearances have not been checked, the low compression test numbers mean nothing, if the valves cannot close there will be no compression.
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                Life is too short to ride an L.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by tkent02 View Post
                  If the valve clearances have not been checked, the low compression test numbers mean nothing, if the valves cannot close there will be no compression.

                  Working on that now..
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                  78 GS1000
                  04 HD Fatboy

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