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    Air Screws

    Can anyone tell me on the BS CV Carbs do the Air Screws just put more air in the fuel mix. Or is it more fuel too.
    [SIGPIC1980 GS1000E
    Yamaharley Roadstar Silverado.2008sigpic

    #2
    Its a measured orifice that limits the rate at which fuel flows from the bowls through the main jet.

    almost like the little valve on a gas can that allows gas to pour but at a measured rate.

    Perhaps these need to be changed with larger main jets to allow the larger jet to work properly.

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      #3
      Originally posted by JEEPRUSTY View Post
      Its a measured orifice that limits the rate at which fuel flows from the bowls through the main jet.

      almost like the little valve on a gas can that allows gas to pour but at a measured rate.

      Perhaps these need to be changed with larger main jets to allow the larger jet to work properly.
      No disrespect intended but this is wrong.

      The pilot (sometimes called the "air") screws allows an emulsion of fuel and air to enter the air flow which controls the mixture at idle and slightly above. More turns open means more emulsion (fuel) enters.
      Ed

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        #4
        Originally posted by Nessism View Post
        No disrespect intended but this is wrong.

        The pilot (sometimes called the "air") screws allows an emulsion of fuel and air to enter the air flow which controls the mixture at idle and slightly above. More turns open means more emulsion (fuel) enters.

        These are not adjustable on some carbs
        how do you adjust them on yours?

        Theres is a pilot air and a main air jet
        I was refering to the mains.

        again i was makin an analogy and if the amount of air was not contolled then the flow would be erratic.

        it is usd because the carbs cant literally suck the fuel out of the bowls its is drawn off

        A cutaway diagram would show it clearly

        no disrepsect

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          #5
          Hi,

          The VM series of carbs on the older GS bikes have separate fuel and air mixture screws.

          The newer CV style carbs (BS series) have a single "idle mixture" screw under a cap on the top front of the carbs.



          You must remove the caps covering the mixture screws in order to adjust them. Turning the mixture screws out increases the fuel at idle.


          Thank you for your indulgence,

          BassCliff
          Last edited by Guest; 07-21-2010, 08:15 PM.

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            #6
            Originally posted by BassCliff View Post
            Hi,

            The VM series of carbs on the older GS bikes have separate fuel and air mixture screws.

            The newer CV style carbs (BS series) have a single "idle mixture" screw under a cap on the top front of the carbs.



            You must remove the caps covering these screws in order to adjust them. Turning the mixture screws out increases the fuel at idle.


            Thank you for your indulgence,

            BassCliff
            So the Air screws, only effect the idle? nothing to do with mid or high range RPM.
            [SIGPIC1980 GS1000E
            Yamaharley Roadstar Silverado.2008sigpic

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              #7
              Originally posted by mike10 View Post
              So the Air screws, only effect the idle? nothing to do with mid or high range RPM.
              Hi,

              Generally speaking, yes, the idle circuit and pilot jet are in play up to about 1/4 throttle. Jet needle for midrange and main jet for WOT. See http://www.iwt.com.au/mikunicarb.htm .

              "Air screw" is the wrong term.


              Thank you for your indulgence,

              BassCliff
              Last edited by Guest; 07-21-2010, 08:12 PM.

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                #8
                Huh???

                Originally posted by JEEPRUSTY View Post
                These are not adjustable on some carbs
                how do you adjust them on yours?

                Theres is a pilot air and a main air jet
                I was refering to the mains.

                again i was makin an analogy and if the amount of air was not contolled then the flow would be erratic.

                it is usd because the carbs cant literally suck the fuel out of the bowls its is drawn off

                A cutaway diagram would show it clearly

                no disrepsect


                This is total, 100% nonsense!
                Last edited by chuckycheese; 07-22-2010, 12:04 AM.
                1980 GS1100E....Number 15!

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                  #9
                  Good Carb web site

                  Originally posted by BassCliff View Post
                  Hi,

                  Generally speaking, yes, the idle circuit and pilot jet are in play up to about 1/4 throttle. Jet needle for midrange and main jet for WOT. See http://www.iwt.com.au/mikunicarb.htm .

                  "Air screw" is the wrong term.


                  Thank you for your indulgence,

                  BassCliff
                  A lot of good info even I can understand. Carbs used to really scare me. The more I learn about them, the better friends we are becoming.
                  [SIGPIC1980 GS1000E
                  Yamaharley Roadstar Silverado.2008sigpic

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by chuckycheese View Post
                    There's a pilot air jet and a main air jet???

                    Why don't you provide that "cutaway diagram" so we can have a close look?
                    My petcock don't either,
                    [SIGPIC1980 GS1000E
                    Yamaharley Roadstar Silverado.2008sigpic

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                      #11
                      There are pilot air jets and main air jets on the BS carbs too.

                      I was wondering if anyone has had to replace the springs in the CV's because they are out of spec. I don't even know what the free length is supposed to be. Anyone know?

                      Would a collapsed spring cause a lean condition @ 1/8 throttle?

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                        #12
                        Hi,

                        Yes, there are air jets. But as I understand these carbs, they are not adjustable.

                        Mikuni BS32SS Carb Manual

                        The above manual has your cutaway views.


                        Thank you for your indulgence,

                        BassCliff

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by BassCliff View Post
                          Hi,

                          Yes, there are air jets. But as I understand these carbs, they are not adjustable.

                          Mikuni BS32SS Carb Manual

                          The above manual has your cutaway views.


                          Thank you for your indulgence,

                          BassCliff
                          Then would the air screw adjustment being too rich or lean, effect the mid or high RPM ranges? After I shimmed my needles I thought I needed to close down the air screws some but I ended up opening them back to where they were.
                          [SIGPIC1980 GS1000E
                          Yamaharley Roadstar Silverado.2008sigpic

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by mike10 View Post
                            Then would the air screw adjustment being too rich or lean, effect the mid or high RPM ranges? After I shimmed my needles I thought I needed to close down the air screws some but I ended up opening them back to where they were.
                            Hi,

                            What you are calling the "air screw" (on a CV carb) is actually the "idle mixture screw" and controls the amount of fuel in the idle circuit, at idle or just off idle. It affects the other circuits very, very little.

                            While there is a little overlap, the circuits are independent of each other. It is quite possible to be too rich on one circuit and too lean on another. Plug chops can tell you the whole story.

                            Thank you for your indulgence,

                            BassCliff

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                              #15
                              That explains a lot

                              Originally posted by BassCliff View Post
                              Hi,

                              What you are calling the "air screw" (on a CV carb) is actually the "idle mixture screw" and controls the amount of fuel in the idle circuit, at idle or just off idle. It affects the other circuits very, very little.

                              While there is a little overlap, the circuits are independent of each other. It is quite possible to be too rich on one circuit and too lean on another. Plug chops can tell you the whole story.

                              Thank you for your indulgence,

                              BassCliff
                              Before I did the Carb needle shims, I kept fooling with the airscrews and wondering why my Mid range power wasn't smoothing out. Below 3500 RPM ok and above 5000 ok. It didn't like running between 50 and 70 MPH.
                              [SIGPIC1980 GS1000E
                              Yamaharley Roadstar Silverado.2008sigpic

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