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    GS1000 Petcock Neoprene Washers

    Well, I screwed up.
    I accidentally broke one of my four petcock neoprene washers. These are the ones that go underneath the two screws that secure the petcock to the tank.
    I have two petcocks, but all four were in bad shape. I'm putting a newly repainted tank on, I think I'll be able to get by with the best 2 of the 3 remaining, but still I'd need to get some new ones.
    Does anyone know off hand where you can find these? I'd hate to have
    this be a show stopper as I'm reassembling the bike.
    Thanks in advance.
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    #2
    I bought a bunch of them from Z1enterprises.
    I think they were only about $2-3.00 each.

    Daniel

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      #3
      Those washers are dowty seals. Available where OE Suzuki parts are sold.
      Ed

      To measure is to know.

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        #4
        Thanks Guys!
        I'll be sure to put them on my shopping list, "Dowdy Seals," never heard of them, I learn something new everyday. In the meantime, I'm going to try to use the two best ones I have in the next half hour. I'm going to lube them up lightly with some grease, not overtighten them, and pray I don't have any leaks.
        Who knows, maybe I'll get lucky like Chuck Hahn who doesn't have any washers and no leaks.
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          #5
          I've used black nylon 1/4" washers from the hardware store many times.

          No leaks and I still have all my hair.
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            #6
            I use the thick plastic liner from a pop bottle cap.

            If it hasnt leaked by now it never will.

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              #7
              Geeze, here we go again...

              Dowty seals are regular metal washers with a rubber seal on the ID that sits proud of the washer. With one of these installed on the screw you simply tighten the screw like normal, and the washer is captured with metal on metal contact. Using plastic/rubber washers can lead to leakage if you over tighten the screw, or often the plastic/rubber washer creeps with age and the clamp load in the screw will go down. Not good since a leak can follow.

              Get the proper part if you want to do the job right.
              Ed

              To measure is to know.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Nessism View Post
                Geeze, here we go again...

                Dowty seals are regular metal washers with a rubber seal on the ID that sits proud of the washer. With one of these installed on the screw you simply tighten the screw like normal, and the washer is captured with metal on metal contact. Using plastic/rubber washers can lead to leakage if you over tighten the screw, or often the plastic/rubber washer creeps with age and the clamp load in the screw will go down. Not good since a leak can follow.

                Get the proper part if you want to do the job right.
                Well well we have been told. I shall go out and tell my Plastic seals to start leaking merely because they were not engineered for the purpose they so effectivley serve.

                If you can get the correct parts lovely, but if you are in a bind you can easily make do and not be surprised.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by JEEPRUSTY View Post
                  Well well we have been told. I shall go out and tell my Plastic seals to start leaking merely because they were not engineered for the purpose they so effectivley serve.

                  If you can get the correct parts lovely, but if you are in a bind you can easily make do and not be surprised.
                  Hey man, do what you want. No hair off my balls if your crotch catches fire due to a leaking petcock.

                  Seriously now, I hate to see threads with half assed fixes promoted going into the archives without at least someone presenting the proper fix. Again, do what you want but gasoline is nothing to mess with.
                  Ed

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                    #10
                    Roasting biker balls on an open fire..hot flames lapping at your legs...
                    MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                    1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                    NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                    I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                      #11
                      Hi,



                      I really appreciate Ed and others who stress the proper procedures and real OEM parts to maintain our classic bikes. You guys keep on doing it.




                      I also like to hear about other "proven" fixes, knowing the possible risks and weighing those against the time/money/availability factor. But I always feel better when I know I've done the job right. To each his own. We're all adults here....mostly.



                      (Thanks for giving me a chance to use my new icons.)


                      Thank you for your indulgence,

                      BassCliff

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                        #12
                        Hey Cliff..been a while ..how about an update on how you and Jessie are mending up? Hows all doing? New thread??
                        MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                        1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                        NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                        I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                          #13
                          I put the best two washers under the screws of my petcock and attached it to my newly painted tank, I applied a light coat of grease at all seals and mating parts to get a good seal, so far so good, no leaks, but the one washer I damaged by trying to remove it with a knife, I cut completely through it, there was no
                          metal in that rubberized corky dowty seal, or any of the other 3, I attached my spare petcock to my spare tank, put some gas in it and it did leak. Went to the local motorcycle shop and asked for some "dowty seals" and the parts guy looked at me like I was from Mars. I explained what it was I was looking for and pulled out a petcock screw for size. He opened his junk drawer and pulled out 2 teflon, nylon washers. I have those but haven't installed them yet.
                          I went to the parts fische and looked up the petcock, they clearly show those dowty washers but don't list a part number or even an item number.
                          I remember pulling a oil pressure switch housing from a salvage bike in case I wanted to remove my oil cooler which included a special oil pressure switch housing that had hose connectors. The two screws that attach the housing have those same size and type of washers, dowty seals I guess, and I looked those up in the parts fische,
                          They are listed as part number 09168-06023, replacing 09168-06009 and are called "washer, oil gallery exhaust."
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by sedelen View Post
                            The two screws that attach the housing have those same size and type of washers, dowty seals I guess, and I looked those up in the parts fische,
                            They are listed as part number 09168-06023, replacing 09168-06009 and are called "washer, oil gallery exhaust."
                            Yup Steve, those are the same. I try to keep a few on hand as spares. Nice thing with dowty seals is they allow the bolt to reach a normal clamp load since it's basically just a metal washer. Compressible washers can squeeze out of place or creep with time, although people with a fine touch can often achieve reasonable results with them.
                            Ed

                            To measure is to know.

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                            Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

                            Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

                            KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Nessism View Post
                              Yup Steve, those are the same. I try to keep a few on hand as spares. Nice thing with dowty seals is they allow the bolt to reach a normal clamp load since it's basically just a metal washer. Compressible washers can squeeze out of place or creep with time, although people with a fine touch can often achieve reasonable results with them.
                              Glad to know we're on the same page! My next order from Boulevard Suzuki will be a half dozen or so of them little dowty washers.
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