Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Ethanol and Sparkplugs

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

    Ethanol and Sparkplugs

    Poking around the web, I find a lot of people saying to use the next colder plug for a vehicle and a gap .010" narrower. Anybody have any opinions about this. I just googled "ethanol spark plug gap."
    1983 GS 1100 Guided Laser
    1983 GS 1100 G
    2000 Suzuki Intruder 1500, "Piggy Sue"
    2000 GSF 1200 Bandit (totaled in deer strike)
    1986 Suzuki Cavalcade GV 1400 LX (SOLD)

    I find working on my motorcycle mildly therapeutic when I'm not cursing.

    #2
    Poke around more and you will find no bike manufacture will reccomend that crap.

    Comment


      #3
      For what it's worth, I run 10% eth in TT/XT 500 Yamahas and Suzuki GR 650 all summer and never have any problems of any kind. No manipulaton of the plugs or carbs. I also run 70% booze in my gas watercooled VW Jettas and Golfs (plastic fuel tank)....been doing it for over two years....with no problems! Well...yes, there is one problem....they tend to run so damned well that I have to be careful not to get tickets!!!

      Comment


        #4
        Originally posted by sharpy View Post
        Poke around more and you will find no bike manufacture will reccomend that crap.
        Care to elaborate? What "crap" are you referring to--the ethanol blend gasoline or the running a colder plug with less total gap?

        As much as I don't like ethanol gasoline blends, I can't escape it unless I move out of region (Midwest). All of our gasoline is blended.

        Comment


          #5
          Honda Accord (1990 - 2002) - Ethanol and Fuel Economy - I recently attended an NGK products training seminar for work. My boss sends us to a hand full of product clinics every year to keep us up to date on the newest products. The speaker showed us a few interesting things about their plugs, wires and O2 sensors. One...

          Here's a link I found from NGK. Since there's a colder and hotter plug specified by Suzuki for our bikes, it wouldn't be a totally reckless move to try the colder specified plug. For the time being, I have narrowed my gap to the lowest end of the range, .024". There's no disputing, gas has changed since 1983.
          1983 GS 1100 Guided Laser
          1983 GS 1100 G
          2000 Suzuki Intruder 1500, "Piggy Sue"
          2000 GSF 1200 Bandit (totaled in deer strike)
          1986 Suzuki Cavalcade GV 1400 LX (SOLD)

          I find working on my motorcycle mildly therapeutic when I'm not cursing.

          Comment


            #6
            Originally posted by 1948man View Post
            http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2007632
            Here's a link I found from NGK. Since there's a colder and hotter plug specified by Suzuki for our bikes, it wouldn't be a totally reckless move to try the colder specified plug. For the time being, I have narrowed my gap to the lowest end of the range, .024". There's no disputing, gas has changed since 1983.
            Yes, the fuel is different but what specific issue are you concerned with?
            Ed

            To measure is to know.

            Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

            Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

            Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

            KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

            Comment


              #7
              The issues discussed in the above link. I realize that discussion was more about cars but wanted to get some opinions from members here about older motorcycles. I found other info about the way the colder plug supposedly resulted in more complete combustion but can't find that link now. I'll post it if I can find it.
              1983 GS 1100 Guided Laser
              1983 GS 1100 G
              2000 Suzuki Intruder 1500, "Piggy Sue"
              2000 GSF 1200 Bandit (totaled in deer strike)
              1986 Suzuki Cavalcade GV 1400 LX (SOLD)

              I find working on my motorcycle mildly therapeutic when I'm not cursing.

              Comment


                #8
                Okay, I realize this is anecdotal but it is pasted from the bottom of the page of the above link.......

                "guess you dont knowhow a spark plug works. A colder plug wont burn the fuel/air as fast so the flame front is more even, slow burning, and more complete. This gives you more power, less emissions, and better fueleconomy. __________________"

                Not my words.
                1983 GS 1100 Guided Laser
                1983 GS 1100 G
                2000 Suzuki Intruder 1500, "Piggy Sue"
                2000 GSF 1200 Bandit (totaled in deer strike)
                1986 Suzuki Cavalcade GV 1400 LX (SOLD)

                I find working on my motorcycle mildly therapeutic when I'm not cursing.

                Comment


                  #9
                  Spark plugs ignite the air/fuel mixture. They don't effect combustion speed, temperature, or anything else. If the plug is too hot it will melt the electrode, and too cold will lead to fouling. Just as long as the correct heat range plug is used to assure it's own long life, there is nothing more to discuss. In terms of the gap, just leave it in the stock range and call it done. High power coils can jump a larger gap but I doubt you will ever notice from the saddle.
                  Ed

                  To measure is to know.

                  Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

                  Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

                  Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

                  KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

                  Comment

                  Working...
                  X