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Roger P.
Originally posted by NOS View PostThanks im taking it apart right now i have some large vises im going to try grab it and twist the body after i soak it for a while and then heat up the body with my torch.
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Originally posted by Roger P. View PostSee? You're asking for help and you already had the answer. The torch is the first tool I would have thought of too. Not any pansy torch either, get yourself a proper oxy-acetylene setup and get that sucker a nice cherry red to break the bond between the aluminum and stainless. Once it's red hot, it will come out with your fingertips, sure as there's sh#t in a goose. Make sure the float bowls are full though, you will need it to provide a bit of heat sinking. Better yet, have a full tank of gas on it and do it in-situ. A full gas tank is an excellent reflector of radiant heat, and will reflect all those wasted BTU's back to where they will do the most good. Don't pussy out! This is a man's bike and requires manly techniques to get it back ship-shape. You obviously had the GSR B-team working on it, now take some advice that you can take to the bank and heat that whore up good and hot! Don't thank me, it's the kind of friendly advice we like to share gratis here at the GS Resources.Cowboy Up or Quit. - Run Free Lou and Rest in Peace
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1981 GS550L - My Eldest Daughter's - Now Sold
2007 GSF1250SA Bandit - My touring bike
Sit tall in the saddle Hold your head up high
Keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky and live like you ain't afraid to die
and don't be scared, just enjoy your ride - Chris Ledoux, "The Ride"
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If the screw has galled in the aluminum carb body, it needs to be machined out.
Call up Q&E on Kraemer. I'm sure they can fix you up.
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JEEPRUSTY
Originally posted by NOS View PostThanks, ill try and do that, im just trying to repair the damage another forum member did to my bike when he installed the bolt without anti seaze and broke it.
Dude seriously no one did this! It is a normal happenstance and you need to accept that!
I would love to have those guys come to my house and work for me.
They were giving about 400 bucks an hour worth of normal shop time.
I cannot believe you do not see this.
A lot of old bikes pop a screw or two it ain't no thang!
As fro the SS you can see from the pic that they are the common chinese made crap with a poorly machined head. This allows a hex key to wobble and that leads to uneven loading and increases risk of breakage. Ask anyone who ever had to lever off a lug nut that was put in place by an air-ratchet. You have no chance of removing the fastener but due to the angle of the tire iron will snap the stud. it is just the way forces move through different planes.
Speaking of planes. The guy who said leave it as is most likley is correct.
What number defines a plane? 3!!! is what
not ever a need for a fourth screw its all there for pretty redundancy.
Backpeddle a bit on this you are so clearly over reacting.
I disrespect a few guys on here but I would never be so hurtful and inappropriate to ones who acted in such a spirit of friendship.
In spite if everyone on here who disagrees with me being wrong about all notions past present and future.
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NOS
Originally posted by JEEPRUSTY View PostDude seriously no one did this! It is a normal happenstance and you need to accept that!
I would love to have those guys come to my house and work for me.
They were giving about 400 bucks an hour worth of normal shop time.
I cannot believe you do not see this.
A lot of old bikes pop a screw or two it ain't no thang!
As fro the SS you can see from the pic that they are the common chinese made crap with a poorly machined head. This allows a hex key to wobble and that leads to uneven loading and increases risk of breakage. Ask anyone who ever had to lever off a lug nut that was put in place by an air-ratchet. You have no chance of removing the fastener but due to the angle of the tire iron will snap the stud. it is just the way forces move through different planes.
Speaking of planes. The guy who said leave it as is most likley is correct.
What number defines a plane? 3!!! is what
not ever a need for a fourth screw its all there for pretty redundancy.
Backpeddle a bit on this you are so clearly over reacting.
I disrespect a few guys on here but I would never be so hurtful and inappropriate to ones who acted in such a spirit of friendship.
In spite if everyone on here who disagrees with me being wrong about all notions past present and future.
an hour worth of normal shop time.
I cannot believe you do not see this.
A lot of old bikes pop a screw or two it ain't no thang!
As fro the SS you can see from the pic that they are the common chinese made crap with a poorly machined head. This allows a hex key to wobble and that leads to uneven loading and increases risk of breakage. Ask anyone who ever had to lever off a lug nut that was put in place by an air-ratchet. You have no chance of removing the fastener but due to the angle of the tire iron will snap the stud. it is just the way forces move through different planes.
Speaking of planes. The guy who said leave it as is most likley is correct.
What number defines a plane? 3!!! is whatLast edited by Guest; 04-28-2011, 01:44 AM.
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JEEPRUSTY
Originally posted by NOS View PostThese guys snapped a brand new bolt putting it in and no anti seaze. Then didnt even tell me about it, i found it the next day snapped off. It was probably cranked to the high heavens, its not comming out with vise grips or the huge vise i have. I guess i have no other option than to notch it.
How in the bloody name of god do you parlay snapping a bolt to a stripped or cross-threade hole?
The notion that a torn up hole would be able to keep its threads in place sufficiently well to allow a head to snap off a fasterner is silly.
If anything the threads would have likely stripped out. Do you realize what you claim is counter-intuitive.
Oh wait has anyone here popped a fastener that was in a compromised set of threads? In aluminum alloy no less.
Not low-buck sort of SS from China that you would not use to fix a door on a ****house.
BAH! NOS man you are in need of some serious humility.
You are being bloody silly. STOP!
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JEEPRUSTY
Originally posted by NOS View PostChef already admitted in the thread that he did it why dont you mind your own business if you werent even there. Chef broke the bolt off putting the bolt in and didnt even bother to tell me. Probably hoping it would just go un noticed. But the fact is that all my threads in my carbs are destroyed, i cant even get the screws back in after i took them out, the fit is so tight i will probably snap some screws just putting my carbs back together, i have to buy some taps and try and tap out all the threads. Chef put in the long bolts instead of the short ones and cranked down on them all.
OK NOS seriously I would never counsel someone to do themselves an injury but.
BUT CUT YOUR AIRY HEAD OFF AND STAND ON IT.
No doubt it will collapse as do all your arguements. leaving you a say late, and a collar short.
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I think you are making up stuff here. What reason would these guys have to not put jets in correctly, INTENTIONALLY break bolts, etc? There is not a single person on this forum that wants to see another hurt on a bike. Heck, why did you even take the carbs back off in the first place? Why did you ride it when they were there if you didn't like their workmanship? Why is it you weren't outside helping along with everyone else throughout the ENTIRE day? If it was my bike, I'd be fighting to be doing some of it just so I can learn.
Talk about looking a gift horse in the mouth.Cowboy Up or Quit. - Run Free Lou and Rest in Peace
1981 GS550T - My First
1981 GS550L - My Eldest Daughter's - Now Sold
2007 GSF1250SA Bandit - My touring bike
Sit tall in the saddle Hold your head up high
Keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky and live like you ain't afraid to die
and don't be scared, just enjoy your ride - Chris Ledoux, "The Ride"
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NOS
Originally posted by JEEPRUSTY View PostHow in the bloody name of god do you parlay snapping a bolt to a stripped or cross-threade hole?
The notion that a torn up hole would be able to keep its threads in place sufficiently well to allow a head to snap off a fasterner is silly.
If anything the threads would have likely stripped out. Do you realize what you claim is counter-intuitive.
Oh wait has anyone here popped a fastener that was in a compromised set of threads? In aluminum alloy no less.
Not low-buck sort of SS from China that you would not use to fix a door on a ****house.
BAH! NOS man you are in need of some serious humility.
You are being bloody silly. STOP!
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NOS
Originally posted by cowboyup3371 View PostI think you are making up stuff here. What reason would these guys have to not put jets in correctly, INTENTIONALLY break bolts, etc? There is not a single person on this forum that wants to see another hurt on a bike. Heck, why did you even take the carbs back off in the first place? Why did you ride it when they were there if you didn't like their workmanship? Why is it you weren't outside helping along with everyone else throughout the ENTIRE day? If it was my bike, I'd be fighting to be doing some of it just so I can learn.
Talk about looking a gift horse in the mouth.Last edited by Guest; 04-28-2011, 01:43 AM.
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wayfast73
I've been a member since '06 (old username was deleted when I sold my GS before buying it back recently), and dont remember any drama like this on here. Your a machinist and mechanic supposidly so I'm sure you have a set of left handed drill bits. Use those to drill them out, heli-coil if necessary, torque to about 5 foot pounds and be done with it. If people were nice enough to burn their gas to come to my house to install a exhaust, rebuild my carbs ect for beer I would not be mad at all if there was a broken bolt. If the threads were all ripped out then the bolts should come out less than finger tight.
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JEEPRUSTY
Man at last a thread where I am not the deluded one.
This has been a long time coming.
Does NOS have any pics od a dis-assenbled rack of carbs with their threads spilled out like guts in a slaughterhouse? I am willing to guess no.
Nope just a silly fruitless bit of nonsense with no purpose and no useful end.
Oh an I too have a medical cert for marijauna. So yeahhhhhh lets excuse that as well.
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Originally posted by NOS View PostThe reason i wasnt there helping was that Ray had me constantly running to the parts store to buy more stuff. You guys think that mixing up the facts and trying to contort the truth will save graces but its just rediculous. What reason do i have to make this stuff up? Im Fing ****ed off at what they did to my bike. You think stripping out all my thread holes and breaking off a bolt in my carb body is a gift? You are seriously screwed up. I never sat down once the whole day and i never even went into the house, people are just making up BS to cover their asses.
Someone mention that someone was smoking pot in the house and yes my roomate was, he has a medical card for it and it is legal and there is nothing i can do about it. But trying to say i was in the house doing that is a flat out LIE.
You need to take a step back and look at the big picture here. They came to your house to help you out. How far would you be right now on your bike?? if it wasn't for them lending their free time to come out and help you.I know in my heart that if you hadn't even offered up the free grub they would have been there. Thats just the way these people are. You need to just take and get the bolt out and then take a few days to reflect on how much you blew this all out of wack.I didnt do it I swear !!
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NOS
Originally posted by kparkfan View PostYou say you are mad because of what they did to your bike. That bolt being broke would never in any way disturb the way it ran. And I bet that if you wouldn't have even seen it you would be on here like WOW these guys are awesome.
You need to take a step back and look at the big picture here. They came to your house to help you out. How far would you be right now on your bike?? if it wasn't for them lending their free time to come out and help you.I know in my heart that if you hadn't even offered up the free grub they would have been there. Thats just the way these people are. You need to just take and get the bolt out and then take a few days to reflect on how much you blew this all out of wack.Last edited by Guest; 04-28-2011, 01:43 AM.
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