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    #16
    If the petcock is allowing fuel to flow when set on the Res and On positions, and the engine is not running, that is a problem. Basically your petcock is not doing anything to stop fuel from flowing when the engine is off, thus the float needles are the only thing that is keeping your carbs from overflowing and flooding the crankcase with fuel. Most likely you have a ton of gas in the oil already.

    As mike says, the vacuum line should run to the #3 carb (third from left). I don't understand how the vacuum line can T into the fuel line since the tube diameters are significantly different. Some photos would be useful to allow us to understand.

    Honestly here, I don't even want to think about this situation any longer and I suggest you don't either. Pull the carbs and go though them fully. Perform a full rebuild using the tutorial on the GSR Homepage (in the Garage tab) and replace the O-rings with a kit from cycleorings.com. Replace the intake boot O-rings. Get new fuel and vacuum lines from a dealership source. Rebuild your petcock or get a new one. Z1 Enterprises sells kits.

    And download a factory service manual from either repairmanualclub.com or basscliff's web site.

    You can't diagnose a bike with all these monkey rigged parts and unknown condition carbs. Needless to say the gas tank should be clean and free of rust too.

    Once you do some of this basic maintenance, they you can try to diagnose problems, if there are any left.
    Ed

    To measure is to know.

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      #17
      Greetings and Salutations!!

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        #18
        maybe this will help you guy help me sort this problem out thanks sooooo much

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          #19
          wish i could upload more than 1 at a time

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            #20
            post whore

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              #21
              You can attach more than one image to a message, they just have to be hosted elsewhere and linked into your post.

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                #22
                last 1 unless someone needs something specific sorry thanks

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by hdcrossbones09 View Post
                  last 1 unless someone needs something specific sorry thanks
                  Yeah that last picture they have the vacuum and fuel ports on the petcock teed together. That is wrong. It should not flow fuel except on "PRI", and if it does the petcock diaphragm is shot and you're getting fuel through the vacuum tee (effectively you're always flowing fuel as on PRI). The needle valves in the carbs are not meant to hold back a constant steady pressure of fuel when not in operation, and are leaking and overflowing into your airbox.

                  The idea is that the petcock should not flow fuel in the ON position unless the diaphragm is getting vacuum (because the engine is running) via the vacuum port on carb #3 (that's carb #2 BTW on the 80-82 CV carbs, not that you care).

                  The vacuum port should be connected to the hose coming off of #3 carb. The hoses from #2 and #4 are vent hoses and the ends should be left in a relatively turbulence-free area. Where is the hose from #3 leading now? I hope it is at least plugged.

                  OEM replacement petcocks still appear to be available for $75-$100.

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                    #24
                    Call me immmediately i PMed you my number..
                    MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                    1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                    NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                    I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                      #25
                      Go back and read thru BassCliffs site on posting pictures and repairs, especially the 10 things


                      That's one seriously messed up bike, I wonder what else the PO did that's just completely wrong?

                      Get some new fuel line from the T to the petcock, run the hose on #3 to the petcock and see what happens

                      Have you checked your oil level? Does your oil smell like gas?
                      1978 GS 1000 (since new)
                      1979 GS 1000 (The Fridge, superbike replica project)
                      1978 GS 1000 (parts)
                      1981 GS 850 (anyone want a project?)
                      1981 GPZ 550 (backroad screamer)
                      1970 450 Mk IIID (THUMP!)
                      2007 DRz 400S
                      1999 ATK 490ES
                      1994 DR 350SES

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                        #26
                        Hi,

                        Have a look at this:

                        Where Do These Hoses Go?

                        Your carbs are the VM style so the vacuum port on the petcock will attach to the #3 carb, to a nipple on the top/rear of the carb (not the #2 like on the CV style carbs). Each of your carbs will have a drain hose. The fuel line runs to the "T" between the #2 and #3 carbs.

                        I'll bet there's gas in your oil. You'd better change it.


                        Thank you for your indulgence,

                        BassCliff

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                          #27
                          I can't find the vacuum port between the carbs that runs to the petcock

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                            #28
                            ON the LEFT side of carb 3 sticks out at an angle just above and to the right of the fuel tee in the center..... kinda in the middle of the carb body.
                            MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                            1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                            NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                            I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                              #29
                              Right next to the fuel T
                              1978 GS 1000 (since new)
                              1979 GS 1000 (The Fridge, superbike replica project)
                              1978 GS 1000 (parts)
                              1981 GS 850 (anyone want a project?)
                              1981 GPZ 550 (backroad screamer)
                              1970 450 Mk IIID (THUMP!)
                              2007 DRz 400S
                              1999 ATK 490ES
                              1994 DR 350SES

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