Announcement
Collapse
No announcement yet.
Did I make a mistake?
Collapse
X
-
keman
Did I make a mistake?
OK, so last week when I got my Morgan carbtune, I synced my carbs without plugging the petcock vac line. Got them all nice and even too. Do I need to go back and do it again with the vac line plugged?Tags: None
-
BassCliff
Hi,
That's a good question. I'm surprised it worked well enough to sync your carbs with the vacuum line open. But I agree with Mr. 1_v8_merc, run it up to 6000 rpm or so on the road. If the mirrors are still relatively clear then I guess you're OK.
Thank you for your indulgence,
BassCliff
Comment
-
Originally posted by keman View PostI synced my carbs without plugging the petcock vac line. Got them all nice and even too. Do I need to go back and do it again with the vac line plugged?Originally posted by 1_v8_merc View PostRide the bike up past 7K rpms.( or Rev it)
Just try to run it at idle. If it runs rough, the carbs are NOT synchronized.
By the way, the difference in throttle opening is much larger at idle than it is at highway speeds.
Let's say that the carbs need to be opened 5% to run at idle. (I have no idea what the actual number is, I am just using this as an example.) Because of the unplugged vacuum line, you had to turn that carb down to about 1% open to match the others. When you plug that vacuum "leak", three of your carbs will still be at 5% and one will be at 1%. Now, when you get them to half throttle to get down the road, three of them are going to be at 55% and one at 51% (almost as much). Not much of a difference. It's still just four points different, but at idle, that one carb is only open one-fifth as much as the others, instead of "almost as much".
That is why I am more concerned about synchronizing my carbs at idle, not at "highway speeds".
.sigpic
mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
#1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
#2 son: 1980 GS1000G
Family Portrait
Siblings and Spouses
Mom's first ride
Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
(Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)
Comment
-
Forum LongTimerGSResource Superstar
Past Site Supporter
Super Site Supporter- Mar 2006
- 35607
- Torrance, CA
I'd resync. You just dumped $100 on a sync tool.Ed
To measure is to know.
Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182
Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846
Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf
KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection
Comment
-
SqDancerLynn1
Re do the job. I made the same mistake of not plugging the vacuum line. The crazy readings I got made me think and I realized I forgot to plug the line. IT makes a big difference
Comment
-
keman
It'll have to wait for me to get the better adapters from z1. Its pretty smooth now. But I tend to be a little "retentive" about things on this bike... Guess I need the practise anyway.
Comment
-
Katarat
I would, you basically synched them with a vacuum leak. Might not make a difference but Id sure want to find out for sure
Comment
-
Forum LongTimerGSResource Superstar
Past Site Supporter
Super Site Supporter- Mar 2006
- 35607
- Torrance, CA
Easy to make your own...
Ed
To measure is to know.
Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182
Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846
Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf
KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection
Comment
-
keman
-
Forum LongTimerGSResource Superstar
Past Site Supporter
Super Site Supporter- Mar 2006
- 35607
- Torrance, CA
Originally posted by keman View PostPics no work...?
Take small allen head screw of appropriate thread size
Drill hole down center of screw
Use copper tubing (sold at hardware stores) and glue into place with epoxy
Install small O-ring (not shown in photos)
Very easy and cheap.Ed
To measure is to know.
Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182
Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846
Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf
KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection
Comment
-
keman
Thanks. I appreciate all of the input.
I was thinking I was going to redo it, part of me was hoping the consensus would be that it makes no difference, so long as I got them all in line. Then I could have talked myself out of it.
Oh well, I'm all over redoing it...Last edited by Guest; 12-05-2011, 11:38 PM.
Comment
-
Suzuki_Don
Ed, still no pics!!
I installed adapters on each inlet tube and have rubber plugs on them, ala Kawasaki Z1. Makes synching real easy, no more removal of hex screws and installing adapters to do the synch.
Comment
Comment