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    Fix those air leaks...

    Took out my (sadly) seldom ridden S over the Christmas holiday for a longer jaunt and at steady freeway cruising (80 mph) the oil temp was cresting 300 F after about 20 min. Upon slowing down noticed the idle was hanging indicating an airleak. The bike has seen a good many shorter rides but the symptoms didn't show up then.

    The carb boot pipes and O-rings are new, but the airbox side boots were hard and shrunk up a little so the decision was made to replace them.

    Took the bike out yesterday for a longer ride (post repair) and the hanging idle is gone. Also, the temp gauge hovered in the 250 F range. Still hot, but 50 F lower than before.

    Going to pull the plugs and check color next, but the bike runs flawlessly so I don't expect to see much. Actually, the bike ran fine at freeway speeds even with the airleak, only it was obviously running lean. Guess that goes to show, don't judge your mixture by how well the bike runs. For you guys running pods or a modified exhaust, better double check your mixture otherwise you could be cooking your engine needlessly. And for guys with a stock intake system, airbox leaks are almost as bad as intake boot pipe leaks.

    Gotta pay attention to details.
    Ed

    To measure is to know.

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    #2
    CV model no doubt?
    I've often thought of acquiring a set of outlet hoses (air box boots) for my
    '79 GS1000E but there's no part number for it, I don't think my boots are leaking but they're probably as hard as nails. Thought about replacing them as to make it easier to reinstall the air box when and if I do.

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      #3
      Originally posted by sedelen View Post
      CV model no doubt?
      I've often thought of acquiring a set of outlet hoses (air box boots) for my
      '79 GS1000E but there's no part number for it, I don't think my boots are leaking but they're probably as hard as nails. Thought about replacing them as to make it easier to reinstall the air box when and if I do.

      http://www.boulevardsuzuki.com/fiche...1978&fveh=2146
      I think you are correct. They don't make the airbox boots for the VM type carbs. They certainly don't for the 550s anyway. I imagine the situation is the same for the larger motors up to '79 as well.

      When I did my intake system up I replaced all 8 boots, engine side and airbox side and have had no trouble since, the bike runs perfectly. I still check the colour of the plugs occasionally as per Ed's advice.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Suzuki_Don View Post
        I think you are correct. They don't make the airbox boots for the VM type carbs. They certainly don't for the 550s anyway. I imagine the situation is the same for the larger motors up to '79 as well.
        Suzuki saw fit to sell them separately for the '79 and earlier 750 and 850 but not the 550 nor 1000 for some reason. They're still available new as well. Somebody on here was going to do some measuring with new 750 hoses and see if they would fit a 1000 but I don't think he ever got back.
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        79 GS1000S (another one)
        80 GSX750
        80 GS550
        80 CB650 cafe racer
        75 PC50 - the one with OHV and pedals...
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          #5
          I don't see them listed in the parts fische for either the '79 GS850G or '77-79 GS750E. The GS750 does show a part number but it's identified as a "drain hose" which it isn't.
          Either the item listing is wrong, or item number and part number. Item 10 in the fische.


          Same thing applies to the '79 GS850G, listed as drain hose. Item 10
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            #6
            Fifty degrees!
            That substantial!
            1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
            1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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              #7
              Originally posted by sedelen View Post
              I don't see them listed in the parts fische for either the '79 GS850G or '77-79 GS750E. The GS750 does show a part number but it's identified as a "drain hose" which it isn't.
              Either the item listing is wrong, or item number and part number. Item 10 in the fische.


              Same thing applies to the '79 GS850G, listed as drain hose. Item 10
              http://www.boulevardsuzuki.com/fiche...1979&fveh=2141

              The part number is right, the description isn't I reckon. A few other sites I have just checked lists as 4 needed so that can't be the (single) drain hose. Plus the price looks about right. Strangely Robinsons lists it as an 'outlet hose'.
              79 GS1000S
              79 GS1000S (another one)
              80 GSX750
              80 GS550
              80 CB650 cafe racer
              75 PC50 - the one with OHV and pedals...
              75 TS100 - being ridden (suicidally) by my father

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                #8
                Originally posted by chef1366 View Post
                Fifty degrees!
                That substantial!
                Dang noobs like Ed... try to tell them to check everything. They never do...

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by hampshirehog View Post
                  The part number is right, the description isn't I reckon. A few other sites I have just checked lists as 4 needed so that can't be the (single) drain hose. Plus the price looks about right. Strangely Robinsons lists it as an 'outlet hose'.
                  As does the parts fische for the '80 GS1000S, "Outlet Hose" (shouldn't that be "Inlet Hose?" just saying )
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by sedelen View Post
                    As does the parts fische for the '80 GS1000S, "Outlet Hose" (shouldn't that be "Inlet Hose?" just saying )
                    Maybe Mr Suzuki expected them to backfire...
                    79 GS1000S
                    79 GS1000S (another one)
                    80 GSX750
                    80 GS550
                    80 CB650 cafe racer
                    75 PC50 - the one with OHV and pedals...
                    75 TS100 - being ridden (suicidally) by my father

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by sedelen View Post
                      As does the parts fische for the '80 GS1000S, "Outlet Hose" (shouldn't that be "Inlet Hose?" just saying )
                      And just what direction is it going from the airbox?

                      OUT.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Dave8338 View Post
                        Dang noobs like Ed... try to tell them to check everything. They never do...
                        Hey Dave,

                        Charlie Brown once said (something to this effect)..."They say we learn from our mistakes. So that makes me the SMARTEST MAN IN THE WORLD"!!!!

                        Charlie and me have a lot in common!
                        Ed

                        To measure is to know.

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