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    Unganging Carbs

    I originally posted this in my other thread - not sure if it's a no no to have 2 threads in here, but I figured it might be good to have a specific thread about the carb part of this whole ordeal since the airbox is taken care of (hopefully!!!, it is sealed now so far as I can tell!)

    Okay - here we go. I'm having trouble getting the carbs unganged. I've removed the choke lever rod, opened up the top of each carbs and removed the screws which tighten onto the throttle rod, loosened up the screw that holds the throttle cable assembly onto the throttle rod, as well as the plate in between carbs one and two, as well as the 8 screws on the gang plate itself.

    It seems, at least to me, that in order to remove the gang plate, the throttle rod needs to come out first. It's loose, and has some play from left to right, but is not coming out. There has to be something I'm missing here? Help please? Here are some pictures of where I'm at.




    #2
    Yes, you must pull out the throttle rod. That 10 mm hex head screw in the middle of the gang (shown in your last photo) needs to be loosened or removed before the rod will pull out.
    Ed

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      #3
      Originally posted by Nessism View Post
      Yes, you must pull out the throttle rod. That 10 mm hex head screw in the middle of the gang (shown in your last photo) needs to be loosened or removed before the rod will pull out.
      Yes - that one is loose already in that picture, the one that kind of hides behind the idle adjustment screw?

      I mean, it seems like everything is loose, but the bar only has like a centimeter or 2 of play. Are they tough to come out sometimes? you think I should use a dowel and a mallet or something?

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        #4
        It's possible that one of the screws that locks a carb slide to the throttle shaft has its tip still partially engaged. Loosen all your screws another turn and try again.

        Can't tell from the pictures, ... you do have the end caps off, so the throttle shaft can come out the end?

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          #5
          Originally posted by Steve View Post
          It's possible that one of the screws that locks a carb slide to the throttle shaft has its tip still partially engaged. Loosen all your screws another turn and try again.

          Can't tell from the pictures, ... you do have the end caps off, so the throttle shaft can come out the end?

          .
          Yeah, the end caps are off ha ha, I'm not that dull! ^__^ . But uhm, you just mean the 4 screws, one for each carb, that is removed once you have the top carburetor cover off? I took them completely out, they aren't just loosened.

          If that's not what you're describing, is there another type of screw that I'm missing?

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            #6
            Yeah take that hex screw all the way out in the middle of the gang. The one that is just loose. If it is screwed in at all, it is still connected to the shaft and you cant pull it out.

            When I broke mine down, I had to tap the throttle rod through with a drift. Dirt and grim was causing it to hang up on the rubber end caps. Shoot a little PB or W-D on there also.

            You said you have # 62 removed right?



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              #7
              Ed was referring to the 8 MM bolt that goes thru the throttle linkage gang and is screwed into the slide rod...that has to come out before thge rod can be slid out..once thats off the back plate will lift off.
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                #8
                yes 62 (and the corresponding bolt 60) is removed! I will fully remove the screw in the middle of the gang and try again, could have sworn it wasn't catching on anything though.

                I told myself earlier today "okay, I'm not going to work on it any more tonight!" but I think I'm about to go downstairs into the garage and check it out ha ha. thanks for the super speedy responses.

                Edit: Yeah, the 8mm coming completely out did the trick. Feel like an idiot for assuming it being loose would do the trick. Thanks everyone! ^__^
                Last edited by Guest; 03-04-2012, 12:06 AM.

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                  #9
                  And be mindfull that as you pull the rod thru the slides linkages may bind a bit. Just grab the rod with a good pair of pliers and twist and pull out at the same time..it will riggle its way out. Clean it real well and derust any spots..lube with some synthetic grease before reinstalling.
                  Last edited by chuck hahn; 03-03-2012, 11:42 PM.
                  MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                  1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                  NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                  I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                    #10
                    Nice to hear that you have your little situation solved, but this statement intrugued me:
                    Originally posted by providedrailroad View Post
                    thanks for the super speedy responses.
                    Not sure what you're talking about there.

                    It took over two and a half hours to get a dozen responses.


                    I am on a few forums and this one has definitely spoiled me. Here, you had better not ask a question and 'walk away'. Chances are that we might need a few more details, so will ask you for them. Since you are not there, the answers that you are looking for are just that much longer in coming.

                    I am on a Toyota Sienna forum to get some ideas about projects for my van. It is somewhat common there to maybe get an answer or two within a week.

                    Yeah, GSR is definitely the place to hang out.

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                    mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                    hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                    #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                    #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                    Family Portrait
                    Siblings and Spouses
                    Mom's first ride
                    Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                    (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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