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    This Seems Counter-Intuitive

    I acquired an airbox for my 1100GL and am replacing the PODS. I have a Dynojet kit currently set up Stage 3 with the PODS and a V and H 4 into 1. I am going Stage 1 and keeping the aftermarket exhaust. The 2 sets of main jets for the stage 3 setup were pretty big, 165's and 170's. I realize you use a conversion factor of .9375 to relate those jets to Mikuni's. The Main jets provided for the Stage 1 setup seem smaller than the OEM. They are 114's and 118's (you use the one which works best). If you take the larger 118 main jets and apply the conversion factor, it seems they are the equivalent to a 110.6 Mikuni whereas the stock setup had 115 Mikuni mains. Even though I will have the original airbox. I will have a more free-flowing exhaust and it seems odd that I would be provided a main jet small than stock.

    I know Dynojet needles supposedly function more efficiently than OEM needles but I can't understand how the Dynojet main jets would be any different other than size. An orifice is and orifice, right? My original mains were labeled 115 but the PO had bored them out to about 160 so I don't have any stock mains. I will get what I need from Z-1 if the Dyno's are insufficient but I wanted to see if maybe I'm misunderstanding something. Thanks, Jim M
    1983 GS 1100 Guided Laser
    1983 GS 1100 G
    2000 Suzuki Intruder 1500, "Piggy Sue"
    2000 GSF 1200 Bandit (totaled in deer strike)
    1986 Suzuki Cavalcade GV 1400 LX (SOLD)

    I find working on my motorcycle mildly therapeutic when I'm not cursing.

    #2
    Well, I finally got through to Dynojet support. The engineer said 2 things. The conversiion factor is not truly accurate although Dynojet jets do run a little smaller than Mikunis of the same number designation.
    Also, the size is not totally relevant because the way the Dynojet needles behave affects the main jet performance. Hope this might be useful to someone.
    1983 GS 1100 Guided Laser
    1983 GS 1100 G
    2000 Suzuki Intruder 1500, "Piggy Sue"
    2000 GSF 1200 Bandit (totaled in deer strike)
    1986 Suzuki Cavalcade GV 1400 LX (SOLD)

    I find working on my motorcycle mildly therapeutic when I'm not cursing.

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      #3
      My own personal experience with the kit (I have a Stage 3 in my GPz) was that the mains were incorrect. I did not mind too much as they are only $2 each plus shipping. I just did the normal tuning of the mains, dialed them in, and went on with my business. Every single engine is just a bit different and DynaJet has no way to tell what you really need. Put in what they send you, determine which way you need to go, buy 2-3 ranges that way, and dial it in. The jets are cheap. The needles, which are the important part, will work just dandy, although I did adjust mine from their recommended position, but the above caveat applies here as well. Overall I am very pleased with the performance once I dialed the kit in.

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        #4
        Thanks, that sounds like a good approach to take.
        1983 GS 1100 Guided Laser
        1983 GS 1100 G
        2000 Suzuki Intruder 1500, "Piggy Sue"
        2000 GSF 1200 Bandit (totaled in deer strike)
        1986 Suzuki Cavalcade GV 1400 LX (SOLD)

        I find working on my motorcycle mildly therapeutic when I'm not cursing.

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          #5
          Did you also put the main air jet correctors in there when the Dyno Jets were installed?

          I think they might richen up the mixture a bit, too.

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            #6
            Absolutely. This is a highly modified engine, so my thought pattern was that I should do it all. I received 180 & 185 mains. I ended up with 170s installed. I got lots of mains now. YMMV.

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              #7
              On mine, the instructions said to use the air correctors on Stage 3 but not use them for Stage 1. I used a dry wall screw to thread slightly into each corrector and yanked them out to go back to Stage 1 configuration. Sage advice on extraction I got from a GSR expert. The bike is back together now and running very well. Will watch it over the next few days.
              1983 GS 1100 Guided Laser
              1983 GS 1100 G
              2000 Suzuki Intruder 1500, "Piggy Sue"
              2000 GSF 1200 Bandit (totaled in deer strike)
              1986 Suzuki Cavalcade GV 1400 LX (SOLD)

              I find working on my motorcycle mildly therapeutic when I'm not cursing.

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                #8
                Super. I never looked at the Stage 1 instructions, to be honest. Never was in the cards.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by 1948man View Post
                  Sage advice on extraction I got from a GSR expert.
                  I have known that guy all my life, he's no "expert".

                  Someone nominated him for "Superstar" status a few years ago, he is still fighting that accolade.

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                  mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                  hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                  #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                  #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                  Family Portrait
                  Siblings and Spouses
                  Mom's first ride
                  Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                  (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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