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    Cleaned Carbs - Same Problem

    After making sure I had spark at the plug and good compression in the cylinder, I pulled apart the carbs on my 1983 GS1100E to see if they were the reason I was running on 3 cylinders at idle. Here's what I found:



    Not bad, right? Nothing gunked up, no o-rings damaged, and only one semi-clogged hole in one of the main jets (not the one giving me problems). I carefully inspected as I went and let everything soak overnight before blowing it out and re-installing the next day. Started it up and exactly the same problem: Runs on 3 cylinders at idle, then springs to life with a little throttle.

    Airbox is tight and all boots are nice and soft and tight.

    Any ideas?

    Here's my pic since I know you all like pictures and the thread link in my signature seems to have been deleted.


    #2
    Which carb is not working at idle /low speed- isn't it likely that the low speed passages are blocked, since it "springs to life" once you introduce the main jet to the party.
    1981 gs650L

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      #3
      Originally posted by tom203 View Post
      Which carb is not working at idle /low speed- isn't it likely that the low speed passages are blocked, since it "springs to life" once you introduce the main jet to the party.
      No, when you bring the needle jet to the party. A problem with idle only is your pilot jet or it's circuit.

      You have it that far apart, dip them and do the whole job correctly.
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        #4
        I 'had' them that far apart. Everything's put together again. It's cylinder #4.

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          #5
          Any chance it happens only when the choke is in use?
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            #6
            Originally posted by tkent02 View Post
            Any chance it happens only when the choke is in use?
            Nope - it's pretty constant - even when hot. Has a nice stumble just off idle until it kicks in.

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              #7
              OK, it's not the choke circuit at fault... try this, put some Techron in the gas and ride it a while, it could clean out and start to run right.
              Slight chance, anyway.
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                #8
                Happy to try anything. Thanks for the suggestion. Next step is taking them apart again and doing the dip (even though they were pretty pristine).

                Originally posted by tkent02 View Post
                OK, it's not the choke circuit at fault... try this, put some Techron in the gas and ride it a while, it could clean out and start to run right.
                Slight chance, anyway.

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                  #9
                  It's either a blocked pilot jet (or part of that circuit) or your mixture screw is way out of whack.
                  79 GS1000S
                  79 GS1000S (another one)
                  80 GSX750
                  80 GS550
                  80 CB650 cafe racer
                  75 PC50 - the one with OHV and pedals...
                  75 TS100 - being ridden (suicidally) by my father

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                    #10
                    It could also be the carbs are WAY out of synch.
                    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...tatesMap-1.jpg

                    Life is too short to ride an L.

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                      #11
                      Carb rebuild tutorial is linked in my signature. It's worth a read though to make sure you didn't miss anything...
                      Ed

                      To measure is to know.

                      Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

                      Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

                      Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

                      KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by tkent02 View Post
                        It could also be the carbs are WAY out of synch.
                        That is where I would put my money, and they don't really have to be all that far out of sync.

                        In fact, that is the whole purpose of a "sync", it is to synchronize the opening of all the throttle blades.


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                          #13
                          Originally posted by tkent02 View Post
                          It could also be the carbs are WAY out of synch.
                          Yes - that too.
                          79 GS1000S
                          79 GS1000S (another one)
                          80 GSX750
                          80 GS550
                          80 CB650 cafe racer
                          75 PC50 - the one with OHV and pedals...
                          75 TS100 - being ridden (suicidally) by my father

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by hampshirehog View Post
                            It's either a blocked pilot jet (or part of that circuit) or your mixture screw is way out of whack.
                            My vote is for a blocked low-speed jet. Tiny little buggers.

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                              #15
                              Easier to check the synch than pull everything apart again.....
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