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    Couple issues since carb overhaul and valve adjustment?

    Engine rpm's are very,very..very slow to drop back to base idle after releasing throttle BUT it idled great and accelerated great! I checked and adjusted throttle cables at carbs so there's 1/16" cable flex/play at stop. Though I did apply a wee bit of vaseline to slider bores for lubrication but now think I maybe shouldn't have I think I'll pull the carbs and sliders and clean out that lubricant on bores? Then while I'm at it, I'll have to pop off the camcover and do something with those 1/2 moon plugs! I posted them in the maintainance section. What a PITA! feedback/suggestions welcomed

    #2
    You might try redoing the mixture screw settings first.

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      #3
      I've got the fuel pilots from 1.5 down to 1 turn out and the air pilots from 1.5 opened up to 2 turns out which didn't effect it other than to "maybe" improve base idle characteristics? The only vacuum lines is just the 1 to petcock?
      The upper rubber hose on gas tank is just an overflow correct?- which just drops down behind air box as well as the 2 carb overflow lines...

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        #4
        Your hose evaluation is correct.
        Did you adjust the idle mixture using this method? Fast idle method

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          #5
          no, I was advised here at GS

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            #6
            When you open the throttle and let it go (engine off) you should hear a loud "Clack" as they slam shut. If you don't hear this clack that is the problem. If you do hear the clack and the idle is high anyway, it's a vacuum leak thing, o rings or whatever.
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              #7
              Are the throttle cables adjudted just so theres a slight bit of slack as you engage the throttle? Take the tank off and observe the cables right where they go into the linkage. Wiggle the throttle a bit and assure theres just a little slack down there. Do the major adjustments at the carbs and fine adjutments at the trhottle grip with the 10 MM jam nut system up there.
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              1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

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                #8
                You are too lean. You must use the fast idle method on VM carbs. What you have are initial settings to get the bike running. Now you need to fine tune it. Nothing else will work.

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                  #9
                  The fuel pilot one turn out should not be lean.
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                    #10
                    Agreed Tom...1 out should be just a tad rich. I say the problem is in a hanging up throttle cable ( which you eluded to with the clack statement ). Antoher possibility is the initial ebnch sync has the slides open just a bit too far. I once took off the tops, started the bike and loosened all the jam nuts and lowered the slides with the adjustment screw and like magic, they settled down. Mind you i had turned the big idle knob till it wasnt touching the throttle linkage anymore and it was still way up there. Then there was that thread where the guy discovered the 8MM bolts that go thru the slide linkages to the throttle rod had come loose and the slides were " floating" as it were. Lesson here is to recheck EVERYTHING and then see what happens.
                    MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                    1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                    NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                    I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by tkent02 View Post
                      The fuel pilot one turn out should not be lean.
                      I have highlighted the operative word in your statement. I am not disagreeing, I am merely stating that they MUST be fine tuned. There is a difference between being in the ballpark and being on home plate. Right now he is in the ballpark.
                      That is why those screws are adjustable. There will be variances between carbs, between cylinders and between engines.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by koolaid_kid View Post
                        I have highlighted the operative word in your statement. I am not disagreeing, I am merely stating that they MUST be fine tuned. There is a difference between being in the ballpark and being on home plate. Right now he is in the ballpark.
                        That is why those screws are adjustable. There will be variances between carbs, between cylinders and between engines.
                        Absolutely correct, my point was that after fine tuning the fuel screws on VM carbs are always less than one turn out in my experience. At one turn he is not lean unless something is wrong someplace else.
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                          #13
                          I cannot disagree. So where is someplace else? Rubber fittings?

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                            #14
                            I had a lot of problems with cables and slides interfering with my idle.

                            The slides don't need much of a snag to really give you fits. Even if the cable feels responsive and has little to no play, if your idle is sticking (staying steadily higher than it should), check those slides again.

                            One way to do this is pull the tops from the carbs like you were going to vacuum synch them. When the idle hangs/sticks, gently press the slides with your fingers - nothing heavy, use the same pressure you'd give to the horn button. If the idle drops then, you have a sticky patch in the slide.

                            If you can recreate the idle snag in the garage, do it there. If not, you can ride around with not tops on the VMs, as they are basically dustcovers. Then at the light when the idle has climbed, do the touch test there.

                            HTH

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                              #15
                              That is true. Can you feel the backs of the slides to see if they are going down all the way?

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