no stock air box

[Steve]

OK, when the guy contacts me, I'll tell him "never mind".

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[almarconi]

If Mr. Bayless never had any problem setting up a bike with pods (he used to own a bike with pods and never had any problem tuning it), why did he opt to use a stock airbox?

[Montanaman]

I'm one of the grouches who curses pod filters - and I'm probably too quick to criticize.

On my first couple of bikes I put on pod filters, expecting huge horsepower gains, and I tuned the carbs endlessly, trying to get the inside two cylinders to carburete as clean as the outside filters, then the weather changing, carbs not working right, and then trying to get the carbs to work seamlessly from idle to redline.

I always settled at a compromise, until I went back to the stock airboxes, and they worked again.

I then read an article where they took a 1980 KZ550 and wanted to see what it would take to make it a GPz550. They first put on a KERKER K-series pipe, pod filters, and rejetted, and promptly LOST 4 hp. The dyno doesn't lie - unlike my butt-dyno ! Ha Ha!

They had to go higher compression, oversize Kawasaki pistons, and cams to hit 55 hp. No magic gains from pods or pipes.

I'm sure that there are wizards here who are much better than I at tuning carbs - but I won't put pods on a UJM ever again.

[blowerbike]

the parts work...some makes a couple hp some makes more depending on the bike.
you caN NOT go off of a 30 year old magazine article...
we live in the 21 century now...the kits have changed.
the difference between me and the majority of members here...
i have actually done it...not just read it on the web.
an 850 with pipe and st.3 can be smooth and have more power(seat of the pants feel).
this is up to the owner...like air boxes...run one.
like quality filters...get a st.3 kit and be happy.
sometimes this is like a sewing circle of old bitties....
carry on

[rapidray]

EVERYTHING Terry just said!!!!! Same here! Been jetting bikes for over 30 years. Some people understand what it takes & can get it. Most don't, get frustrated & talk crap about jet kits & 4 into 1s. Ray.

[Montanaman]

I like the DYNOJET kits - they do work - especially compared to trying to shim needles and drill jets 1/2 sizes - sheesh - I can't believe I use to try to do that -

[ron bayless]

If Mr. Bayless never had any problem setting up a bike with pods (he used to own a bike with pods and never had any problem tuning it), why did he opt to use a stock airbox?

Montana man answered the question better than I could have.On my former gs, it came with pods, the stock airbox was never available.I didnt know any better.It ran like a scalded dog.The po had an infinite amount of tuning skill, I do not.I am going with the recommendation of experts like steve and changing to the stock air box to make it easier to keep the bike running smoothly. I am 64, have owned over 20 motorcycles, my last one was a valkyrie with 6 carburetors.I never tried to tune that bike.I am afraid of carburetion tuning and electrical issues.This should take the carburetion issue out of the equation.

One last statement, it is brought up about changing a kz 550 to gpz.I own a kz 1000,with pods. I am selling it asap once the customizing is done.My friend used to build rail dragsters and frames for race cars, plus he built a ducati for a lsr attempt.He thinks pods are ok.But this is my bike, and I want it to be as simple as is possible.

[ron bayless]

OK, when the guy contacts me, I'll tell him "never mind".

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Thank you for your help.I appreciate it.

[ron bayless]

Where do you guys order parts from the most? Is there one place that is the preferred dealer? I go to bikebandit for many things.I have priced an airfilter.They are $57.00.I hope they dont need replacing very often.I think k an n you just reoil them occasionally.

[twr1776]

Ron, UNI makes a replacement filter element that is quite a bit less than the OEM. NU-2436

http://www.unifilter.com/online-catalog/

I have a barely used one I can send you. PM for details.

[Steve]

Where do you guys order parts from the most? Is there one place that is the preferred dealer? I go to bikebandit for many things.I have priced an airfilter.They are $57.00.I hope they dont need replacing very often.I think k an n you just reoil them occasionally.

Please remember that Bike BANDIT earned that name. They are the second-most-expensive source online. (Only Alpha Sports is more expensive.)

Did you ever get your official "Mega Welcome" from BassCliff? (<-- click the link)

There is a discussion there on some of the preferred vendors. Everyone will have their favorite, others might have had a problem with that 'favorite' some time in the past and will avoid them, etc., but very few people have had problems with Boulevard Suzuki for OEM and Z1 Enterprises for a bunch of other good stuff. Z1 will also order OEM parts, if you wish, but like everyone else, they don't stock them. What they show on their website, they stock, so you will have it in just a few days, which is always a "plus". Add in the fact that at least two of the head honchos there are members of GSR, it's just icing on the cake.

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[ron bayless]

Thats great information.I didnt know bandit was a bandit.I knew their stuff was high,just assumed it would be anywhere.I am very familiar with z1.A friend of mine and i are building a cafe racer out of a 1980 kz 1000.We have the parts and 2 more engines to make a second roller.he is also building a cb 750 for his nephew and we are going to look for a master cylinder for it tomorrow.I love the kz bikes, but having ridden all 3 of them, I dont know why, but the gs is my favorite.just as the cb is his.I will bookmark boulevard.

[ron bayless]

There must be a different way to get to boulevard site.It takes me to parts for a suzuki boulevard.

[ron bayless]

Ron, UNI makes a replacement filter element that is quite a bit less than the OEM. NU-2436

http://www.unifilter.com/online-catalog/

I have a barely used one I can send you. PM for details.

pm sent to you

[cowboyup3371]

Yes that's right - www.boulevardsuzuki.com