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    So... I'm working on a recently acquired GT750 Water Buffalo. While cleaning the carbs, the floats to be more accurate, I was a bit too strong in my cleaning. I ended up denting a few of the floats. I don't know my own strength I guess.

    And even though I tried several searches, I couldn't really find an answer to my questions. Which are:

    Is there any way to repair these dented carb floats? They're not crushed flat but they have been dented some.

    I assume I can't still use them? Since they're dented, I'm guessing the air volume will now be incorrect and not usable?

    Thanks for any help and please pardon my stupidity.

    Super
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    1974 GT750 ...done, running and sold
    1974 GT550 .... under construction (done and sold)
    1978 GS550........all stock, running (going to do 550/650 build with it)
    1978 GS1000...another project (Given to son #2)
    1982 GS750EZ ...daily driver(given to son#1)
    1982 GS1100G...completed and traded to son #2 for the 750 back
    1982 GS750EZ...daily driver (got it back in trade with son #2)
    1983 GR650 Tempter.... engine rebuild completed (and sold)

    #2
    If they float use them.
    1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
    1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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      #3
      I read somewhere years ago that if you drop them into boiling water the dents will pop out...Never tried it but it seems logical as the air pressure inside would rise and the heat would soften the brass slightly too.

      Worth a try anyway.

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        #4
        Like Bill said...if they dont leak use them as is.
        MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
        1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

        NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


        I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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          #5
          Thanks for the replies.

          My first thought was that even though they were dented, the inside air volume should remain the same. But I'm just don't know for certain if the change in the outside size of the floats would effect the float height.

          My second thought was to try and raise the inside temp of the floats to expand them to push the dents out. I thought to maybe put them in the oven. BUT.. I know that I can't compromise the solder of the floats and that heating them too much may do this. And I don't know what temp would melt the solder.

          Still not sure what to do.
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          1974 GT750 ...done, running and sold
          1974 GT550 .... under construction (done and sold)
          1978 GS550........all stock, running (going to do 550/650 build with it)
          1978 GS1000...another project (Given to son #2)
          1982 GS750EZ ...daily driver(given to son#1)
          1982 GS1100G...completed and traded to son #2 for the 750 back
          1982 GS750EZ...daily driver (got it back in trade with son #2)
          1983 GR650 Tempter.... engine rebuild completed (and sold)

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            #6
            Solder should hold up to the boiling water idea. Melts much higher than 212 degrees.
            MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
            1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

            NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


            I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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              #7
              Ok, thanks Chuck. That's good to know. I think I'll give it a try.
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              1974 GT750 ...done, running and sold
              1974 GT550 .... under construction (done and sold)
              1978 GS550........all stock, running (going to do 550/650 build with it)
              1978 GS1000...another project (Given to son #2)
              1982 GS750EZ ...daily driver(given to son#1)
              1982 GS1100G...completed and traded to son #2 for the 750 back
              1982 GS750EZ...daily driver (got it back in trade with son #2)
              1983 GR650 Tempter.... engine rebuild completed (and sold)

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                #8
                Boiling water sounds like a good trick, if they're dented then don't use them, your fuel level will change and that means the mixture will be affected.
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                Don't say can't, as anything is possible with time and effort, but, if you don't have time things get tougher and require more effort.

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                  #9
                  Thanks. I was wondering if that may be the case.

                  I'm still hoping someone that has been through something like this might still jump in and give their experienced advice.
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                  1974 GT750 ...done, running and sold
                  1974 GT550 .... under construction (done and sold)
                  1978 GS550........all stock, running (going to do 550/650 build with it)
                  1978 GS1000...another project (Given to son #2)
                  1982 GS750EZ ...daily driver(given to son#1)
                  1982 GS1100G...completed and traded to son #2 for the 750 back
                  1982 GS750EZ...daily driver (got it back in trade with son #2)
                  1983 GR650 Tempter.... engine rebuild completed (and sold)

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                    #10
                    Man, I've seen on more than one occasion, guys cut off the entire "pontoon" off of a double lobed float and the still have the bike run like balls. It appeared to make no difference what-so-ever.

                    I can't imagine a couple dents are gonna make any discernible difference at all.

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                      #11
                      The dents will make it foat lower. Adjust th float hieght again, it's fine. Didn't the boiling work?
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                        #12
                        On the same line, couldnt someone cut the brass ones off and replace them with round poly ones from some old VM carbs? Thing would be whats a fuel proof adhesive to put them on with.
                        MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                        1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                        NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                        I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                          #13
                          Solder. But what about the boiling?
                          http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...tatesMap-1.jpg

                          Life is too short to ride an L.

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                            #14
                            The floats are likely ruined unless the boiling water trick restores the shape.

                            The Suzuki2Stroke forum is a good source for your GT750 questions.
                            http://www.suzuki2strokes.com/forum/

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                              #15
                              Floats

                              I personally think that it would have to depend where the dent or dents are located. Is the float deformed, so much as to prevent smooth operation action??? If not deformed, I would just use the 4 modified drain bolt with tubing method to set the correct level and go from there.
                              1981 GS 1000GLX.
                              1981 GS 1000G.
                              1981 GS 650GLX.
                              1975 TS 185.
                              1972 100. Kawasaki.
                              1968 100. Suzuki.
                              1970 Z 50. Honda.
                              1984 CT 70. Honda. (Kids)
                              1982 DS 50. Suzuki. (Kids)

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