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    2 cylinders when cold

    My GSX1100 fires up on 2 cylinders when cold.Once it has warmed up, it lets out a couple of massive backfires when the other 2 start to come online.
    Once warm, it runs sweetly.I have fitted new spark plugs but with no effect.
    As you sit on the bike, it is the 2 left hand cylinders that are the issue.
    Any ideas most appreciated !
    Last edited by Guest; 01-18-2014, 01:43 PM. Reason: Added info

    #2
    The way I figure, in general, it takes 4 things to fire a cylinder:

    1: Compression
    2: Ignition
    3: fuel
    4: Air

    Since the two offending cylinders are adjacent I would rule out ignition for now.

    An air blockage would most likely not only affect only 2 cylinders and probably wouldn't be affected by temperature either.

    That just leaves fuel and compression. I have seen marginal compression cause cylinders to not fire when cold and come back once the engine heats up, so a basic compression check would be in order.

    Fuel is most likely the culprit. Could be an issue with the enrichment circuit running lean or even gas pooling from a leaking petcock that needs to be burnt off. If you leave the bike on the side stand, the gas could pool on the left side and cause a flooding condition on initial startup. Just my thoughts. Others with more direct experience will most likely chime in.
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    1980 GS1000GT (Daily rider with a 1983 1100G engine)
    1998 Honda ST1100 (Daily long distance rider)
    1982 GS850GLZ (Daily rider when the weather is crap)

    Darn, with so many daily riders it's hard to decide which one to jump on next.;)

    JTGS850GL aka Julius

    GS Resource Greetings

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      #3
      What have you done to the carburetors so far?
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        #4
        Which 2 cylinders don't start up?

        If they're on the same coil, that may point to the issue

        But, it sounds like clogged pilot jets
        1978 GS 1000 (since new)
        1979 GS 1000 (The Fridge, superbike replica project)
        1978 GS 1000 (parts)
        1981 GS 850 (anyone want a project?)
        1981 GPZ 550 (backroad screamer)
        1970 450 Mk IIID (THUMP!)
        2007 DRz 400S
        1999 ATK 490ES
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          #5
          Thank you for the advice.
          The carbs have k&n type filters and have probably never been jetted to suit.
          The affected cylinders are run by 2 separate coils, so I assume that rules them out.
          Pilot jets sound like a likely culprit.
          I'll give them a blow out.

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            #6
            Don't waste your time doing a "blow out". Take them down and do a proper rebuild or you'll be revisiting them again.

            Here's the rebuild tutorial to help you along:



            Follow it step by step and you'll be in good shape.
            http://img633.imageshack.us/img633/811/douMvs.jpg
            1980 GS1000GT (Daily rider with a 1983 1100G engine)
            1998 Honda ST1100 (Daily long distance rider)
            1982 GS850GLZ (Daily rider when the weather is crap)

            Darn, with so many daily riders it's hard to decide which one to jump on next.;)

            JTGS850GL aka Julius

            GS Resource Greetings

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              #7
              It sounds more like the choke feed passage in the float bowls is clogged. Did you dip the float bowls?
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              Life is too short to ride an L.

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                #8
                That tutorial is just what I need thank you.
                Not sure what is meant by "dipping the float bowls" but I have done nothing yet.
                Beer seems to have taken priority for the moment !

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Danno View Post
                  That tutorial is just what I need thank you.
                  Not sure what is meant by "dipping the float bowls" but I have done nothing yet.
                  Beer seems to have taken priority for the moment !
                  TKENT02 "It sounds more like the choke feed passage in the float bowls is clogged. Did you dip the float bowls?"



                  Do what he advised. Their are passages in the bowls that are probably gummed up. Sounds like everything else is running correct when warm so lucky you, you may not need a full teardown of the carbs. Take those bowls off and dip them

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                    #10
                    Please go read this about cleaning your carburetors:

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by tkent02 View Post
                      It sounds more like the choke feed passage in the float bowls is clogged. Did you dip the float bowls?
                      Yes, it does.
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                        #12
                        Let me guess, this bike sat a long time sitting on the side stand?
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                          #13
                          All good advice. I would also check the valve adjustment as well. Good luck!
                          Johno

                          current rides 1981 GS1000G and 2005 GSX1400
                          1977 Kawasaki KZ400 D4

                          previous bikes 1978 GS1000HC
                          1977 GS400
                          1974 Montesa 250
                          1960s Kawasaki 175

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                            #14
                            Thank you all for the advice.
                            Yep, it has been on it's side stand for a while.
                            Looks like i have some cleaning to do this weekend !

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